Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.etla.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'mailman.': 0.03; 'source,': 0.04; 'list?': 0.07; 'stops': 0.07; 'next,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'spaces': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; '4:39': 0.16; 'indent': 0.16; 'margin,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'tab': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'switched': 0.24; 'text,': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'second': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'mode': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'posting': 0.31; '(maybe': 0.31; '13,': 0.31; 'indentation': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'plain': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; '14,': 0.36; 'shows': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'delete': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'space': 0.40; 'dave': 0.60; 'ian': 0.60; 'conversion': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'due': 0.66; 'readers': 0.68; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'angel': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: plotting slows down Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:42:18 -0500 References: <4c51b5e8-e7b4-4a09-95d4-daefbfe27b28@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389649355 news.xs4all.nl 2873 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47098 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63865 On 1/13/2014 12:45 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Dave Angel wrote: >>> Next, please repost any source code with indentation preserved. >>> Your message shows it all flushed to the left margin, probably >>> due to posting in html mode. Use text mode here. >> >> That's odd, the message that I got includes proper indentation and is >> plain text, not html. > > Also what I saw. Dave, do you get the newsgroup or the mailing list? I > get the mailing list - it's possible the HTML version got stripped by > Mailman. I am reading via gmane. Viewing the source, there is no html. BUT, indents are with tabs, not spaces. Some readers just delete tabs, as there is no standard for conversion to spaces, especially with proportional fonts. Thunderbird used to do this, but now uses tab stops every 8 spaces (maybe because a switched to a fixed font?) This means that the first tab gives an indent 8 chars in the original post, 6 in the first quotation, and, I presume, 4 in a second quotation, etc. It works better to post code with space indents. -- Terry Jan Reedy