Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Christopher Reimer Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 20:51:47 -0800 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <5695fd0e$0$11119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <0529e7d6-0de1-4e38-9a19-2b5ed1ecc39f@googlegroups.com> <5696e77e$0$1597$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5d7a5bb1-f229-4755-a0bf-dd3ad9d99fba@googlegroups.com> <36c2dbd5-e8e4-4e56-8c4e-ffb2da51875f@googlegroups.com> <46334134-1fd1-493a-9c8a-6f14956cf60a@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de uERICXOK2b3ewaDbQirj0AMhbiUb0/fH/GUhmcZX62AA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.042 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'essentially': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'replied': 0.09; 'jan': 0.11; 'prototype': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'doesn\xe2\x80\x99t': 0.16; 'founders': 0.16; 'jerry': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:writing': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'worse.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'else,': 0.18; 'version.': 0.18; 'windows': 0.20; 'am,': 0.23; 'code,': 0.23; 'fit': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'skip:m 30': 0.27; 'fri,': 0.27; 'product.': 0.27; 'ibm': 0.27; 'received:17': 0.27; 'developing': 0.28; 'decline': 0.29; 'microsoft,': 0.29; 'ray': 0.29; 'silicon': 0.29; 'ago': 0.29; 'code:': 0.29; 'print': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; '15,': 0.30; 'becomes': 0.30; 'received:10.0.0': 0.32; 'source': 0.33; 'venture': 0.33; 'received:10.0': 0.34; 'company:': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'turn': 0.37; 'thought': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'late': 0.38; 'stuff': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'header:MIME-version:1': 0.60; 'him': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'show': 0.62; 'bring': 0.62; 'iphone': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'interest': 0.64; 'within': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'six': 0.65; 'developed': 0.66; 'buying': 0.67; 'products': 0.70; 'william': 0.79; 'bernardo': 0.84; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'precursor': 0.84; 'subject:Stop': 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x9cwe': 0.84; 'source?': 0.91; 'examine': 0.95 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-01-17_01:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1601170094 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:101832 On 1/15/2016 10:09 AM, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 3:02 PM, William Ray Wing wrote: >> What Micro$oft was actually sued for was worse. They would approach a small company: “We like your product/technology, we think we are interested in buying you out, but we want to see your code to be sure it is modular/well-documented/etc.” Then, after looking over the code: “Well, it actually doesn’t fit our plans. Sorry.” Six months or so later, essentially identical stuff would turn up in a Micro$soft product. >> > More out of curiosity than anything else, do you have a source? > I thought I replied to this a few days ago from my iPhone but I haven't seen my response show up on the list. My apologies if this becomes a dupe. My favorite book is "Startup: A Silicon Valley Adventure" by Jerry Kaplan. He developed the first pen-based computer in the late 1980's that became the precursor for PDA's in the 1990's. After showing off the prototype to Apple, IBM and Microsoft, they all screwed him over by developing competing products within a few years. Microsoft was able to bring in an engineer to examine the electronic schematics and source code, decline any interest in the product, and form a development team for a pen-based Windows version. The venture capitalists squeezed the founders out and dismantled the company. Although out of print for a good many years, the book is now available as an ebook. Chris R.