Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!bcyclone01.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone01.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Django': 0.03; 'yet.': 0.03; 'django.': 0.05; 'javascript,': 0.07; 'sql.': 0.07; 'hooks': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'systems.': 0.11; 'django': 0.13; '"michael': 0.16; '>in': 0.16; '>on': 0.16; 'django?': 0.16; 'received:yourhostingaccount.com': 0.16; 'work."': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'together.': 0.20; 'to:2**1': 0.21; '(all': 0.22; 'css,': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; '(or': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'developers': 0.26; 'appreciated.': 0.27; 'always,': 0.29; 'pay,': 0.29; 'read,': 0.29; 'books': 0.30; 'that.': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'creating': 0.30; 'another': 0.32; 'getting': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'html,': 0.33; 'largely': 0.33; 'point,': 0.33; 'url:listinfo': 0.34; 'languages': 0.34; 'add': 0.34; 'server': 0.34; 'interact': 0.35; 'mix': 0.35; 'knowledge': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'project': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; 'basic': 0.36; 'received:10.20': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'itself': 0.38; 'received:66': 0.38; 'feedback': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'thank': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'questions': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'consultant': 0.60; 'care': 0.60; "you'll": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'matter': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'experience.': 0.66; 'life': 0.67; 'pages).': 0.84; 'popular.': 0.84; 'received:10.20.18.15': 0.84; 'touched': 0.84; 'abstracts': 0.91; 'game,': 0.91 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=MLvumapl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=6thTdk0GfRoQwv0zj4iWMg==:117 a=YHaK2y7iffdR6ZG/aRXuBA==:17 a=pq4jwCggAAAA:8 a=QPcu4mC3AAAA:8 a=8_iErv3XAAAA:8 a=1E9jo8_qk6kA:10 a=wpL1jeqTJocA:10 a=XW0vzNQbW2AA:10 a=uRRa74qj2VoA:10 a=IHpK4gAxAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8AHkEIZyAAAA:8 a=XPkDF-HIHyrz9zAu9cQA:9 a=Spabb166XhwA:10 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.7.141117 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:31:19 +0800 Subject: Re: Is Django the way to go for a newbie? From: Dwight GoldWinde To: Michael Torrie , Python Python Thread-Topic: Is Django the way to go for a newbie? References: <55C790D3.3040906@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55C790D3.3040906@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="EUC-KR" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-EN-UserInfo: 6c5a25a10f5591a3de9585e9195aba16:931c98230c6409dcc37fa7e93b490c27 X-EN-AuthUser: dwight@goldwinde.com Sender: Dwight GoldWinde X-EN-OrigIP: 222.172.183.4 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 70 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1439258733 news.xs4all.nl 2923 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47840 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 6371 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2752706442 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95234 With much appreciation, Michael=A1=A6 When I get to that point, I will look into learning what I need to know about html, css, javascript, and SQL. I have been a life coaching now for 28 years (and super happy with it), although I was a computer software consultant before that. I=A1=AFm not really thinking of getting back into web development for pay, just for fun for a project that I am designing for creating an =A1=B0automated life coach=A1=B1. Again, thank you! BIG SMILE... Always, Dwight www.3forliving.key.to (video playlist on YouTube) www.couragebooks.key.to (all my books on Amazon) On 8/10/15, 1:41 AM, "Michael Torrie" wrote: >On 08/08/2015 10:08 PM, Dwight GoldWinde wrote: >> I am both new to Python and I haven=A9=F6t even touched Django yet. >>=20 >> I understand I that I need Django or something like it to develop my >> website. >>=20 >> From what I have read, Python and Django somewhat go together. >>=20 >> Is that true? >>=20 >> Or is there another development platform better for someone like me than >> Django? >>=20 >> Any and all feedback or questions are much appreciated. > >Web development is very a very hard problem, largely because it involves >quite a few different domain-specific languages that you have to be >proficient in. It's not just a matter of Python and Django. You must >also have a good working knowledge of html, css, javascript, SQL (or >some other database engine, and even though Django abstracts the >database somewhat), and how they all interconnect and interact with each >other. So at this stage of the game, get some Python experience. Then >mess with html, css, javascript on their own (static pages). After than >then you'll be ready to add Django to the mix and also get some basic >database experience. > >And judging by how much custom web applications cost these days, once >you've mastered all this, you'll be in a position to make a lot of >money. Not joking either! Web developers are some of the smartest >people I know, and in the highest demand, because they work so well with >such complex systems. > >In this area, node.js is getting very popular. I don't care much for >javascript but using it on the server as well as the web browser itself >reduced the number of languages you have to know by one. > >> BIG SMILE... > >"Just relax and let the hooks do their work." >--=20 >https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list