Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'broken': 0.03; 'plenty': 0.07; '"if': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'def': 0.14; '"break"': 0.16; 'advantage.': 0.16; 'constructs': 0.16; 'flag,': 0.16; 'fond': 0.16; 'obviously,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'expanded': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'trying': 0.22; 'of.': 0.22; 'code,': 0.23; 'wondering': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'equivalent': 0.27; 'expanding': 0.27; 'separate': 0.27; 'this.': 0.28; "i'm": 0.29; 'currently,': 0.29; 'feature,': 0.29; 'programmers': 0.31; "i'd": 0.31; 'code': 0.31; "can't": 0.32; 'gets': 0.32; 'done,': 0.33; 'add': 0.34; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.35; 'really': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'hi,': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'front': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'received:de': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'even': 0.61; 'more': 0.62; 'places': 0.64; 'of:': 0.66; 'apart': 0.70; 'obvious': 0.72; 'demand': 0.79 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: for...else Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:27:35 +0200 Organization: None References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57bd989b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.13.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 70 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1433248099 news.xs4all.nl 2883 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52778 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91827 acdr wrote: > Hi, > > Currently, in various places in my code, I have the equivalent of: > > for x in it: > if complicated_calculation_1(): > cleanup() > break > complicated_calculation_2() > if complicated_calculation_3(): > cleanup() > break > > Obviously, I'm repeating myself by having two separate calls to > cleanup(). I can't really see a nicer way to do this. (Though I see > plenty of non-nice ways to do this, such as adding "broken = True" in > front of every "break", and then after the loop is done, have an "if > broken" section.) Other solutions that I'm not particularly fond of > can be found on stackexchange, where someone else is trying to do the > same thing: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3296044/opposite-of-python-for-else Perhaps you like of these: for x in it: if not complicated_calculation_1(): complicated_calculation_2() if not complicated_calculation_3(): continue cleanup() break def f(): for x in it: if complicated_calculation_1(): break complicated_calculation_2() if complicated_calculation_3(): break else: return cleanup() > I'm wondering if there is a demand for expanding the "for...else" > functionality to be expanded also have a block of code that only gets > called if the loop is broken out of. I.e.: > > for x in it: > ... > then: > # "break" was called > ... > else: > # "break was not called > ... You may not like using a flag, but it's a really obvious approach and the situations where it's necessary are not very common. Apart from indentation- based blocks Python is very middle-of-the-road, so I'd ask if there is an existing language that has such a feature, and if yes, is it used frequently? I suspect that there are many Python programmers that have never even used (for...else). Python the language is already becoming too complicated for my taste; I would rather not add more constructs where there is no significant advantage.