Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.01; 'programmers,': 0.07; 'mistakes,': 0.09; 'php,': 0.09; 'subject:None': 0.09; 'programmer': 0.11; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'ball': 0.16; 'bash,': 0.16; 'be?': 0.16; 'chaos': 0.16; 'crack': 0.16; 'subject:Query': 0.16; 'situation.': 0.19; 'subject:List': 0.20; 'programming': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'badly': 0.22; 'tech': 0.22; 'tools,': 0.22; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.23; 'received:mail- iw0-f174.google.com': 0.23; 'reflect': 0.24; 'script': 0.26; 'chris': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'noticed': 0.29; 'subject:?': 0.29; 'fri,': 0.29; 'new.': 0.31; 'does': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'sorry': 0.33; 'sometimes': 0.33; 'using': 0.34; 'difference': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'tool': 0.35; 'response': 0.36; 'familiar': 0.36; 'think': 0.36; 'problems': 0.37; 'some': 0.37; 'variety': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'apr': 0.38; 'steven': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'how': 0.39; "it's": 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; 'best': 0.60; 'huge': 0.62; '2011': 0.62; 'emails,': 0.64; 'ever': 0.65; 'day': 0.66; 'boss': 0.68; 'tiny': 0.69; 'today': 0.70; 'anything,': 0.73; 'beautiful': 0.73; 'learned': 0.73; 'credibility': 0.84; 'subject:Case': 0.84; 'mistakes': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CpyMW5uazIfJ2YkNKfW+q1S1XUxDJPVAsbGQLEJAK2U=; b=tlVYfizZBotnMnBYDdoK3AX/BV8gZPK2A/AkHFNY9eUH0+qVZBXQrZfCC5uxUTuALN 1FfX5BjbwcSruOQWGmGfgPbqloKdpoenhPmjXwi2qFOD/BY3YK1/yjDiuXBhBWo+mBCw 0l1jX7MP5ySpsyV6g4KnEQds5UZAzwzr1VG9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=u7yXp0vU0RnPdYQwB8lthMBe/K8CI3Yim8u5YlfCyk+pok7SILQhQUHHtzFjN7S3wG ajh4As7z5COH2X7RGTbJKISS664yPaDCFFQMNnEcTa4//l/moGpOje+hyG9UuAluSekC WRx+pZLWyoPsX9tMlvWmT0lxNb3TvtrD5I2xc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4d951179$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <4d951179$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:01:07 +1100 Subject: Re: In List Query -> None Case Sensitive? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1301616071 news.xs4all.nl 32470 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:33893 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:2317 On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > (Oh, and I don't want to come across as elitist, but if you're using the > two-ton wrecking ball of Microsoft Word to crack the tiny peanut of > writing emails, you will have *zero* tech credibility in programming > communities. Harsh but true. Sorry Marco, but mastery of tools is > important to programmers, and a tool that generates as crufty HTML as > Word does will unfortunately reflect badly on the person using the tool.) There are the mistakes (nearly) everyone makes when new. I think HTML email might be one of them. The difference between a good programmer and a mediocre one is that the good programmer has already made a lot of mistakes, and has learned from them. The difference between an excellent programmer and a good one is that the excellent one is familiar with a huge number of tools, and knows which one is best for which situation. A two-ton wrecking ball is not the best tool for cracking peanuts; Microsoft Word is not the best tool for... well, anything, probably. My boss at work laughs sometimes at the weird variety of tools I crack out in response to various problems - today it's awk, tomorrow sed, the next day some two-minute script in Python, Pike, bash, PHP, or REXX.... ever noticed how beautiful chaos can be? :) Chris Angelico