Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!multikabel.net!newsfeed10.multikabel.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.039 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'irc': 0.03; 'subject:using': 0.04; 'ram': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'reason.': 0.07; 'also:': 0.09; 'answering': 0.09; 'content- type:multipart/signed': 0.09; 'cool.': 0.09; 'filename:fname piece:signature': 0.09; 'hosts': 0.09; '(at)': 0.16; '(dot)': 0.16; 'accounts?': 0.16; 'advice,': 0.16; 'background,': 0.16; 'content-type:application/pgp-signature': 0.16; 'experiment.': 0.16; 'filename:fname piece:asc': 0.16; 'filename:fname:signature.asc': 0.16; 'major,': 0.16; 'maybe,': 0.16; 'overly': 0.16; 'uncommon': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'this:': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'example.': 0.18; '(which': 0.19; 'blog:': 0.21; 'maybe': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'runs': 0.23; 'pm,': 0.24; 'there.': 0.24; 'aug': 0.24; "i'm": 0.27; 'fact': 0.27; 'host': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.29; 'fairly': 0.30; '(so': 0.30; 'ass': 0.30; 'btw,': 0.30; 'controls': 0.30; 'hansen': 0.30; 'subject:Database': 0.30; 'chris': 0.32; 'signed': 0.32; 'answers': 0.32; 'cases': 0.32; 'received:24': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'people,': 0.32; 'usually': 0.32; 'technical': 0.33; 'too': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'on,': 0.34; 'points': 0.34; '...': 0.34; 'quite': 0.34; 'requirements': 0.34; 'towards': 0.35; 'certain': 0.35; 'couple': 0.36; 'affects': 0.37; 'hosting': 0.37; 'with.': 0.37; 'rest': 0.37; 'using': 0.37; 'run': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'somewhat': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'comments': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'under': 0.39; 'expensive': 0.39; 'option': 0.39; 'subject:with': 0.39; 'data': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:74.125': 0.39; 'background': 0.40; 'solid': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'processing': 0.40; 'personal': 0.60; 'provided': 0.60; 'more': 0.60; 'questions,': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'company': 0.61; 'kind': 0.61; 'emails': 0.62; 'you.': 0.62; 'link': 0.63; 'further': 0.64; 'friendly': 0.64; 'website': 0.65; 'account': 0.66; '29,': 0.67; 'centers': 0.67; 'site.': 0.68; 'business': 0.70; 'legal': 0.70; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.71; 'mail:': 0.73; 'advertising': 0.75; 'prices': 0.76; '3:09': 0.84; 'anyways.': 0.84; 'australia,': 0.84; 'competitive.': 0.84; 'complex,': 0.84; 'cron': 0.84; 'site...': 0.84; 'subject:SQL': 0.84; 'system),': 0.84; 'tied': 0.93; 'url:io': 0.93; 'officially': 0.95 Sender: Ixokai Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:39:49 -0700 From: Stephen Hansen MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Interact with SQL Database using Python 2.4 or lower References: <3299fca8-7b39-4ddd-89d1-03e0d4f1ef84@z1g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <4E5B1F1F.8070604@ixokai.io> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=555B1FE5; url=http://id.ixokai.io/pub.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig66F006435D5888EB5DA4334E" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: me+list/python@ixokai.io List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 94 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1314596395 news.xs4all.nl 2541 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40309 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:12389 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig66F006435D5888EB5DA4334E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/28/11 10:23 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Stephen Hansen > wrote: >> Get a new webhost. ... >> >> But I don't know if they have a warehouse in Australia, if their laten= cy >> with any of their various data centers is suitable for you. Maybe, may= be >> not -- but there /has/ to be a better option then this site... Good >> hosts these days are not all that uncommon and are fairly competitive.= >=20 > Having burnt my fingers with a couple of web hosts, and finally > decided to host my own web site, I have one major piece of advice > regarding this: >=20 > Get a personal recommendation. This is good advice, though with prices as they are in many cases -- provided you don't need to start out immediately solid and have some development wiggle-room -- its not a bad thing to experiment. Just don't get too tied to a certain host until you feel them out. Sending them emails with detailed questions before you sign up is a good thing, for example. Good hosts will respond with detailed, specific answers, from real people. Bad hosts will point you to a vague website or stock reply. Real people, reading your real questions, and answering with real answers is a major, major sign of the kind of company I want to do business with. (Bonus points if they respond to complex, technical and legal questions with specific answers within 24 hours -- bonus++ points if the non-legal questions usually get responses in 1, at absurd times even). > BTW, don't take the fact that I host my own site as a negative > recommendation for every hosting company out there. My requirements > are somewhat unusual - I want to host a MUD, not just a web site. > Hosts that let you do THAT much are usually quite expensive :) Hehe, I don't want to get overly advertising in my comments (so I'm so not including a referrer link anywhere), but amusingly enough, my first Webfaction account was signed up for the MUD reason. They officially don't give a rats ass what you run in the background, provided you're just not using more then your RAM allotment and that its not spiking the CPU to a point that affects the rest of the system. I have one account that runs a mud, one that does often semi-significant background processing regularly via cron jobs (which they mailed me about once when it got out of hand-- but they were entirely professional and nice about it, and I fixed it with some controls so it behaved in a more friendly way towards the rest of the system), and one for my personal site where I run an IRC bouncer on, and all is cool. (Why three accounts? One is paid for by a client, one half by me, one by me -- it was just easier, and no way it all would fit under a single plan= ) Anyways. I shall not further ramble as a satisfied-customer. --=20 Stephen Hansen ... Also: Ixokai ... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io ... 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