Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'exec': 0.07; '>>>>': 0.09; 'dict': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'received:gator410.hostgator.com': 0.09; 'sure,': 0.09; 'variables.': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'def': 0.13; 'argument': 0.15; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.15; '42,': 0.16; 'evaluates': 0.16; 'received:72.11': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125.166': 0.16; 'received:gateway01.websitewelcome.com': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.18; 'subject:Question': 0.19; 'seems': 0.19; "we'd": 0.20; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.25; 'tried': 0.27; "i'm": 0.27; 'missed': 0.28; 'example': 0.28; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'kelly': 0.30; 'none,': 0.30; 'updated': 0.32; 'actually': 0.32; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.33; 'calling': 0.34; 'assignment': 0.34; 'stuck': 0.34; '...': 0.35; 'none': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'that.': 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'your': 0.61; 'course,': 0.61; 'results': 0.64; 'received:websitewelcome.com': 0.64; 'here': 0.64; 'received:184': 0.67; 'subject:name': 0.67; '19,': 0.68; 'received:69.56': 0.73; 'dict,': 0.84; 'received:69.56.224': 0.84; '-->': 0.91; 'updated.': 0.93 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:41:59 -0800 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Kelly Subject: Re: Question about name scope References: <20120201181117.5d35dddc@bigfoot.com> <4F29BB9C.70405@stoneleaf.us> <4F29C255.1050009@stoneleaf.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator410.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: mail.admailinc.com ([192.168.10.136]) [72.11.125.166]:2621 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3I0MTAuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 64 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1328142880 news.xs4all.nl 6918 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60588 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:19760 Ian Kelly wrote: > Sure, but that's not actually out of sync. The argument of your exec > evaluates to 'print (a)'. You get two different results because > you're actually printing two different variables. Ah -- thanks, I missed that. > You can get the dict temporarily out of sync: > >>>> def f(x, y): > ... frob = None > ... loc = locals() > ... loc[x] = y > ... print(loc) > ... print(locals()) > ... print(loc) > ... >>>> f('frob', 42) > {'y': 42, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': 42, 'loc': {...}} > {'y': 42, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': None, 'loc': {...}} > {'y': 42, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': None, 'loc': {...}} > > In this case, 'frob' is updated to 42 in the dict, but the optimized > local is not updated. Calling locals() again refreshes the dict. I'm not sure what you mean by temporary: --> def f(x, y): ... frob = None ... loc = locals() ... loc[x] = y ... print(loc) ... print(locals()) ... print(loc) ... print(locals()) ... --> --> f('frob', 19) {'y': 19, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': 19} {'y': 19, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': None, 'loc': {...}} {'y': 19, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': None, 'loc': {...}} {'y': 19, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': None, 'loc': {...}} Seems to be stuck that way. Here is a better example I was thinking of: --> def f(x, y): ... locals()[x] = y ... locals()['x'] = 17 ... print(locals()) ... print(x) ... print(y) ... --> f('a', 42) {'y': 42, 'x': 'a', 'a': 42} a 42 So locals() was updated with 'a', but not with the assignment to 'x'. And of course, if we tried to 'print(a)' we'd get a NameError. ~Ethan~