Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.etla.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '"this': 0.03; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'url:pipermail': 0.05; 'versions,': 0.07; '2to3': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'discussion.': 0.16; 'guess.': 0.16; 'hazard': 0.16; 'porting': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'remembered': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(not': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '2.x': 0.24; 'skip': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'developers': 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'leave': 0.29; 'related': 0.29; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'author,': 0.31; 'developers.': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'subject:mailing': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'programmers': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'created': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'doubt': 0.36; 'edge': 0.36; 'everyone.': 0.36; 'leads': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'explain': 0.39; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'discuss': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'believe': 0.68; 'warrant': 0.68; 'garner': 0.84; 'mature': 0.84; 'perspective,': 0.84; 'url:python-dev': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; 'wanting': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Porting mailing list underused? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 21:51:53 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-169-2.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389477138 news.xs4all.nl 2958 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35766 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63723 On 10/01/2014 21:31, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 10/01/2014 20:38, Skip Montanaro wrote: >>> Anyone in the >>> know who can explain this phenomenon? >> >> I don't think I can explain it authoritatively, but I can hazard a >> guess. Skimming the archives sorted by author, it looks like most/all >> the correspondents are Python core developers. That leads me to >> believe this was a list created for the core Python developers to >> discuss issues related to porting tools such as 2to3 or six. I doubt >> it was intended for Python programmers to get help porting their own >> code. From the Python core development perspective, I think automated >> porting tools are likely pretty mature at this point and don't warrant >> a lot of discussion. >> >> Skip >> > > If the dumbo OP had remembered to say that > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-porting states rather > vaguely "This list is to contain discussion of porting Python code > between versions, mainly from Python 2.x to 3.x." it might have helped > garner more answers. Still, if we leave the list open for long enough > we'll all be able to discuss porting python 2.x to python 4.x :) > I've now found this https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2008-December/083951.html QUOTE It is a public mailing list open to everyone. We expect active participation of many people porting their libraries/programs, and hope that the list can be a help to all wanting to go this (not always smooth :-) way. ENDQUOTE Strikes me that if more people had participated, or maybe even known about it, we currently wouldn't be on the edge of WWIII regarding PEP 460. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence