Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'none.': 0.09; 'received:gator410.hostgator.com': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'def': 0.13; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.15; 'received:72.11': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125.166': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.17; 'subject:Question': 0.19; 'seems': 0.19; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; 'feb': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'changed': 0.23; 'suggests': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.25; 'pm,': 0.26; "i'm": 0.27; 'print': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'second': 0.29; 'kelly': 0.30; 'none,': 0.30; 'reflect': 0.31; 'actual': 0.32; 'thanks': 0.32; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'stuck': 0.34; '...': 0.35; 'none': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'that.': 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'received:websitewelcome.com': 0.64; 'received:184': 0.67; 'subject:name': 0.67; '19,': 0.68; 'dict,': 0.84; 'received:gateway15.websitewelcome.com': 0.84; '-->': 0.91 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:59:37 -0800 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Kelly Subject: Re: Question about name scope References: <20120201181117.5d35dddc@bigfoot.com> <4F29BB9C.70405@stoneleaf.us> <4F29C255.1050009@stoneleaf.us> <4F29CDC7.2000104@stoneleaf.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator410.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: mail.admailinc.com ([192.168.10.136]) [72.11.125.166]:2638 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 7 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3I0MTAuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1328140417 news.xs4all.nl 6847 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35795 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:19757 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: >> I'm not sure what you mean by temporary: >> >> --> def f(x, y): >> >> ... frob = None >> ... loc = locals() >> ... loc[x] = y >> ... print(loc) >> ... print(locals()) >> ... print(loc) >> ... print(locals()) >> ... >> --> >> --> f('frob', 19) >> {'y': 19, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': 19} >> {'y': 19, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': None, 'loc': {...}} >> {'y': 19, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': None, 'loc': {...}} >> {'y': 19, 'x': 'frob', 'frob': None, 'loc': {...}} >> >> Seems to be stuck that way. > > The first print is the one that is incorrect. It suggests that the > local 'frob' has been changed to 19 as it has in the dict, but the > actual value of the local is still None. The second print on > accurately reflect that. Ah. Thanks for the explanations. ~Ethan~