Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'assign': 0.04; 'cpython': 0.05; 'compiler': 0.07; 'exec': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'though:': 0.09; 'variables.': 0.09; 'def': 0.13; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.15; '"copyright",': 0.16; '"credits"': 0.16; '"license"': 0.16; '42,': 0.16; 'surprising,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; '3.2': 0.18; 'subject:Question': 0.19; 'seems': 0.19; 'cheers,': 0.20; 'feb': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'changed': 0.23; 'statement': 0.23; 'assigning': 0.23; 'received:74.125.82.174': 0.24; 'pm,': 0.26; 'function': 0.27; 'described': 0.28; 'bit': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'actually': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'it.': 0.33; 'received:74.125.82': 0.34; 'cc:2**1': 0.36; 'reference': 0.37; 'received:74.125': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'should': 0.38; 'either': 0.39; "couldn't": 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'change': 0.40; 'difference': 0.40; 'type': 0.60; 'more': 0.61; 'subject:name': 0.67; 'local,': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=GetE7I/WAGaufN2BItt/QiWahYA/4+45+Sv69gj9p9Q=; b=aab4JfkqUBoCa0WuWEdanp87wSjAHnbTXGnrKDX1NVdB4Tt2s1BT2gK/Nq+o2CoMiz 57Knl0tNHWqo7zQRHUqIvaEEhg0Nlt1nddpIBQ3ufQX5UHdw+OAk8pktmNjx0hFCwwu0 M/YF3jrlhVku+4p/7UvbZ0NcEKZjQBRQDaywA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F29BB9C.70405@stoneleaf.us> References: <20120201181117.5d35dddc@bigfoot.com> <4F29BB9C.70405@stoneleaf.us> From: Ian Kelly Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:38:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Question about name scope To: Ethan Furman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org, mwilson@the-wire.com X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1328135930 news.xs4all.nl 6946 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48413 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:19746 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > Definitely should rely on it, because in CPython 3 exec does not un-optimize > the function and assigning to locals() will not actually change the > functions variables. Well, the former is not surprising, since exec was changed from a statement to a built-in. I don't see any difference in the way locals() behaves, though: Python 3.2 (r32:88445, Feb 20 2011, 21:29:02) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win 32 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> def f(x, y): ... locals()[x] = y ... print(vars()) ... exec('print(' + x + ')') ... >>> f('a', 42) {'y': 42, 'x': 'a', 'a': 42} 42 That still seems to work as I described it. You couldn't directly reference it as 'a', though, since the result would be either that it would try to look up a global with that name, or the compiler would consider it a local, optimize it, and then you could no longer assign it via locals(). Cheers, Ian