Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:IDLE': 0.03; 'received:verizon.net': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; '"i\'m': 0.16; '10:17': 0.16; 'patch,': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'tcl/tk': 0.16; 'walzer': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'jan': 0.19; 'commit': 0.21; 'wrote': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'kevin': 0.28; 'idle': 0.28; 'problem': 0.29; 'seem': 0.29; 'quite': 0.31; 'updated': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'anything': 0.34; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'problem.': 0.36; 'post': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'patch': 0.38; 'couple': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'address': 0.61; 'here': 0.64; 'france,': 0.67; '8.5': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Buffering in Wing and IDLE 3 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:01:40 -0500 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-74-109-121-73.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1328126705 news.xs4all.nl 6947 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57798 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:19738 On 2/1/2012 10:17 AM, Franck Ditter wrote: > I would prefer to use IDLE but as we are in France, the Python team > does not seem to be aware that the ~ and others are not available > on MacOS-X here (probably the same in Europe)... We are quite aware of the problem but cannot directly do anything about it as the problem is with tcl/tk and Apple. A couple of days ago, Kevin Walzer wrote on an IDLE-sig post "I'm currently reviewing an updated patch to address the problem. When I commit the patch, it will go into both Tk's trunk and in the Cocoa 8.5 backport, and eventually be available through ActiveState's distribution." -- Terry Jan Reedy