Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.251 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.52; '*S*': 0.02; 'mrab': 0.05; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'advocating': 0.16; 'americans': 0.16; 'ano': 0.16; 'drag': 0.16; 'idea!': 0.16; 'silly': 0.16; 'soap,': 0.16; 'utc': 0.16; 'utc.': 0.16; 'zone.': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'first.': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'logical': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'along': 0.30; 'apparently': 0.31; 'men': 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'url:non-standard http port': 0.33; 'received:66': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; '(we': 0.36; 'campaign': 0.36; 'east': 0.36; 'january': 0.37; 'system,': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'dangerous': 0.60; 'referred': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'received:unknown': 0.61; 'ago,': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.63; 'day.': 0.63; 'happen': 0.63; 'charset:windows-1256': 0.64; 'become': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'wall': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'news': 0.67; 'eastern': 0.68; 'cold': 0.69; 'million': 0.74; 'received:204': 0.75; 'hand': 0.80; 'citizens.': 0.84; 'headlines': 0.84; 'journal': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'promptly': 0.84; 'snap': 0.84; 'boxes': 0.91; 'hands': 0.96; 'online,': 0.96 X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: + From: Gene Heskett To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Time zones and why they change so damned often Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 15:26:22 -0500 References: <52D04089.2090203@mrabarnett.plus.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:58:14 +0100 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 53 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389387495 news.xs4all.nl 2931 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37398 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63665 On Friday 10 January 2014 15:24:11 Mark Lawrence did opine: > On 10/01/2014 18:48, MRAB wrote: > > On 2014-01-10 18:22, Peter Pearson wrote: > >> On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:14:55 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> [snip] > >> > >>> What I find, most of the time, is that it's Americans who can't > >>> handle DST. I run an international Dungeons and Dragons campaign > >>> (we play online, and new players are most welcome, as are people > >>> watching!), and the Aussies (myself included) know to check UTC > >>> time, the Brits and Europeans check UTC or just know what UTC is, > >>> and the Americans say "Doesn't that happen at 8 o'clock Eastern > >>> time?" and get confused. > >> > >> Around 30 years ago, the Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece > >> advocating the abandonment of time zones and the unification of the > >> globe into a single glorious time zone. After enumerating the > >> efficiencies to be achieved by this system, the writer briefly > >> addressed the question of whose time zone would become the global > >> standard, promptly arriving at the conclusion that, due to the > >> concentration of important commerce, the logical choice was the > >> east coast of the United States. > > > > What a silly idea! > > > > The logical choice is UTC. :-) > > Hell will freeze over first. But apparently it already has in > Minnesota. Drat, drat and double drat!!! That Hell the headlines referred to is in Michigan... Its a headline they drag out every time we get a cold snap & its ano otherwise slow news day. Nothing to see here, now move along please... > > >> My point: we deserve the teasing. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page Young men want to be faithful and are not; old men want to be faithless and cannot. -- Oscar Wilde A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens.