Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'advocating': 0.16; 'americans': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'idea!': 0.16; 'message- id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'received:84.93': 0.16; 'received:84.93.230': 0.16; 'silly': 0.16; 'utc': 0.16; 'utc.': 0.16; 'zone.': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'logical': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'piece': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; "can't": 0.35; 'received:84': 0.35; '(we': 0.36; 'campaign': 0.36; 'east': 0.36; 'system,': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'ago,': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'happen': 0.63; 'become': 0.64; 'wall': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'eastern': 0.68; 'journal': 0.84; 'promptly': 0.84; 'sfxlen:4': 0.84; 'pfxlen:big': 0.91; 'online,': 0.96 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=dYa5gxne c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=5FYZ9MsUIQAA:10 a=BYPA0V67toYA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=k9KYHxuyaagA:10 a=w9QyuZUjJtQoRGkNq2IA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:48:41 +0000 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org CC: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Time zones and why they change so damned often References: <78d91$52cbf8e9$541826b9$29485@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <4b702$52cc262e$541826b9$22985@cache80.multikabel.net> <4cbf$52cc2e82$541826b9$11761@cache70.multikabel.net> <686$52cd4640$541826b9$21896@cache1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl> <7wvbxteskh.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <7wr48hernb.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389379729 news.xs4all.nl 2866 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49689 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63652 On 2014-01-10 18:22, Peter Pearson wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:14:55 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > [snip] >> What I find, most of the time, is that it's Americans who can't handle >> DST. I run an international Dungeons and Dragons campaign (we play >> online, and new players are most welcome, as are people watching!), >> and the Aussies (myself included) know to check UTC time, the Brits >> and Europeans check UTC or just know what UTC is, and the Americans >> say "Doesn't that happen at 8 o'clock Eastern time?" and get confused. > > Around 30 years ago, the Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece > advocating the abandonment of time zones and the unification of the > globe into a single glorious time zone. After enumerating the > efficiencies to be achieved by this system, the writer briefly > addressed the question of whose time zone would become the global > standard, promptly arriving at the conclusion that, due to the > concentration of important commerce, the logical choice was the > east coast of the United States. > What a silly idea! The logical choice is UTC. :-) > My point: we deserve the teasing. >