Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'ascii': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'repeated': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'devs': 0.16; 'elsewhere.': 0.16; 'illiterate': 0.16; 'received:69.93': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'things.': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'byte': 0.24; 'him.': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'van': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'rest': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'ignored.': 0.30; 'talented': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'comments': 0.31; 'obscure': 0.31; 'really,': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'continuing': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'one,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:173': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; "you've": 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'interest': 0.64; 'details': 0.65; 'wish': 0.70; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'nonsense.': 0.84; 'ban': 0.91 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:28:17 -0800 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Bytes indexing returns an int References: <52cbe15a$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52cc278c$0$29979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7d2d5d85-afa2-474d-8739-c33745b7c00b@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3304.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 173.12.184.233 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([173.12.184.233]) [173.12.184.233]:47503 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3IzMzA0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389288493 news.xs4all.nl 2930 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40134 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63621 On 01/09/2014 09:05 AM, Piet van Oostrum wrote: > Ned Batchelder writes: > >> On 1/8/14 11:08 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: >>> Byte strings (encoded code points) or native unicode is one >>> thing. >>> >>> But on the other side, the problem is elsewhere. These very >>> talented ascii narrow minded, unicode illiterate devs only >>> succeded to produce this (I, really, do not wish to be rude). >> >> If you don't want to be rude, you are failing. You've been told a >> number of times that your obscure micro-benchmarks are meaningless. Now >> you've taken to calling the core devs narrow-minded and Unicode >> illiterate. They are neither of these things. >> >> Continuing to post these comments with no interest in learning is rude. >> Other recent threads have contained details rebuttals of your views, >> which you have ignored. This is rude. Please stop. > > Please ignore jmf's repeated nonsense. Or ban him. His one, minor, contribution has been completely swamped by the rest of his belligerent, unfounded, refuted posts. -- ~Ethan~