Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'read.': 0.03; 'collier': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'recommends': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'windows': 0.15; 'limiting': 0.16; 'pep8': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'url:pep-0008': 0.16; 'url:peps': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'char': 0.24; 'url:dev': 0.24; 'second': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'raised': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'johnson': 0.35; 'programming,': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'machines': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'devices': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'maximum': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'limit': 0.70; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: PEP8 79 char max Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 References: <51F6C5F5.5020201@Gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 In-Reply-To: <51F6C5F5.5020201@Gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1375131703 news.xs4all.nl 15961 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55077 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:51496 On 7/29/2013 3:43 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson wrote: > In Python programming, the PEP8 recommends limiting lines to a maximum > of 79 characters because "There are still many devices around that are > limited to 80 character lines" "plus, limiting windows to 80 characters makes it possible to have several windows side-by-side. " > (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#code-lay-out). What devices > cannot handle 80 or more characters on a line? PEP 8 is being revised. My understanding is that because such machines are now rare, while the second reason is still operative, the recommended limit will be raised to 100, or at least say that some are using that as the guideline. 200 char lines are harder to read. -- Terry Jan Reedy