Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'scripts': 0.03; 'programmer': 0.03; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'read.': 0.03; 'url:launchpad': 0.05; 'subject:Error': 0.07; 'collier': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'itself.': 0.14; 'mostly': 0.14; 'badger': 0.16; 'before.': 0.16; 'brilliant': 0.16; 'easier.': 0.16; 'levels,': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'url:bazaar': 0.16; 'url:head': 0.16; 'worst': 0.16; 'write,': 0.16; 'demonstrate': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'url:view': 0.20; 'written': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'code,': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'coding': 0.22; 'otherwise,': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'sort': 0.25; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'door': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'easier': 0.31; 'received:10.0.0': 0.31; 'too.': 0.31; '+0100,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'mid': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; "we're": 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'style': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'knows': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'next': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'received:10.0': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'turn': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'same.': 0.38; 'somebody': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'address.': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'august': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'myself': 0.63; 'refer': 0.63; 'said:': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'hoping': 0.75; 'police.': 0.84; 'good,': 0.91; 'johnson,': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mh4bk2rBuAVvJ2DRiUBR69ZreuWHiIorIQLL1Xsw0Vc=; b=XAR0cFBcjtO4vIXFxDC/5FDdiYiOVuvwqPhtrE1f1hb7ZAB8xs1bluLuXynjdK2w7k eyTpJqB824m44mhVFQaVUndK3YREsuPS9r/Z7m1+KdzqCjHxUUXit2hugAPOuIH2Susp 8M25kRZ6ppIjDGBHndHVeUSUso/FQmRnTkcz9u3w23CfFdobYGnvONVYO7zILQaNGsfy 0s2IhRBb4Q3dKUwVS5cCfGC39HEyuDzvx6XTpN8fsyGJHcBd1pHKYn3osfSD8afg72yP bLc0qBXD3K8vR2PuuRM98D3UD3Q1tomwjhSpGAU+XZ1r9xuGCVs4OwzbNHUy98JavTM1 Cl3w== X-Received: by 10.50.67.105 with SMTP id m9mr2124919igt.34.1376389865226; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 03:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 06:31:02 -0400 From: Devyn Collier Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Python Mailing List Subject: Re: Am I not seeing the Error? References: <5206F4AB.8050204@Gmail.com> <5208D625.2000103@Gmail.com> <5209f360$0$29885$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <5209f360$0$29885$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1376389873 news.xs4all.nl 15947 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53177 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:52451 On 08/13/2013 04:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 09:19:07 +0100, Joshua Landau wrote: > >> On 12 August 2013 16:47, Roy Smith wrote: >>> I can't quite sort out the multiple quoting levels, but somebody said: >>> >>>>>> Programming like that is called trolling. A programmer that uses >>>>>> trolling is called a troll. A troll can also refer to such a line of >>>>>> code itself. My scripts contain a lot of trolls. It is easier for me >>>>>> to read trolls than "typical" coding styles. >>> Please tell me this is all just an elaborate joke. >> That was the OP (Devyn Collier Johnson, ) and >> I, too, am hoping this is an elaborate joke. However, see >> "http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~devyncjohnson-d/neobot/trunk/view/head:/ > lib/beta_engine". >> I am struggling to see what the punchline is... > > If Artificial Intelligence code is hard to write, it damn well should be > hard to read too. Otherwise, how will people know how brilliant you are? > > But seriously... I don't know what language Devyn is writing in Python, > but I've seen code like that before. Mostly code written back in the > early to mid 1980s. I may have even written some of it myself :-) > > Anyway, I don't think we should badger Devyn, we're not his dad and we're > not the code police. All we can do is continue to demonstrate good, > idiomatic, *working* Python code, and hopefully he will learn to write > the same. > > I now see why this programming style is called trolling. It brings the worst out of people (^u^). Can I have the number for the coding police, I want to turn myself in (^u^). For me, this style is easier to read. I have tried the "typical" style, but I find this one to be easier. Good thing no one knows my address. A mob might show up at my door (^u^). Once I have the next version of my chatbot released, I will tell you all so you can see it work. Mahalo, DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com