Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.081 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.84; '*S*': 0.00; 'thread': 0.14; 'changes': 0.15; 'discussion.': 0.16; 'expecting': 0.16; 'out)': 0.16; 'record,': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'why,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(not': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'pointed': 0.19; 'example': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'evolving': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'related': 0.29; 'received:10.0.0': 0.31; '3.2': 0.31; 'testing.': 0.31; 'continuing': 0.33; 'sense': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'created': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'received:10.0': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'you.': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'due': 0.66; 'topics.': 0.68; 'fast!': 0.84; 'grew': 0.84; 'gut': 0.84; 'side-effects': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=35jtgbsRAvvq87vlKHfbYOGHkqZ35G8kXlSuSkuSuE8=; b=Uqm2HLTa4+pOayF5DmdV0HAiGNaAizu/7YlmF6HYV9TCGwXpKGwW3vrYqa7f5p/wBY QHROe6lfxBUsEVca42UjdCNA7sNMoCK+NEHy/x4favbQJW7ymUoDQACUltIG7gjoBzQq 2lUXn7P+6cbwkxigLqvc1+kECwSdfitEAy/ovVNkMTGULcwvfTUsLee53hNXnN8ip/Pl +acXdduntDl/KjHLQDr3OpwmeUghlXLqqQSmjvrqbCd8fAqulo6o3zTeDqz17WdkyotY dszCgS7731GrSSonOcC7MmtbbhKlRBRKF8X/ZoNyry2u9u7PH7vEvwE6OdqM+kSpKAwU 248w== X-Received: by 10.236.85.45 with SMTP id t33mr26672760yhe.211.1375101787227; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:43:03 -0400 From: Devyn Collier Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Python Mailing List Subject: Re: FSR and unicode compliance - was Re: RE Module Performance References: <51DFDE65.5040001@Gmail.com> <4f1067f6-bc99-42ad-9166-37fb228b90e8@googlegroups.com> <51f14395$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51f15e03$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8203e802-9dc5-44c5-9547-6e1947ee224b@googlegroups.com> <51f5847f$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51F65AB4.8080309@modelnine.org> In-Reply-To: <51F65AB4.8080309@modelnine.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1375102214 news.xs4all.nl 15989 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53913 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:51441 On 07/29/2013 08:06 AM, Heiko Wundram wrote: > Am 29.07.2013 13:43, schrieb wxjmfauth@gmail.com: >> 3.2 >>>>> timeit.timeit("r = dir(list)") >> 22.300465007102908 >> >> 3.3 >>>>> timeit.timeit("r = dir(list)") >> 27.13981129541519 >> >> For the record, I do not put your example to contradict >> you. I was expecting such a result even before testing. >> >> Now, if you do not understand why, you do not understand. >> There nothing wrong. > > Please give a single *proof* (not your gut feeling) that this is > related to the FSR, and not rather due to other side-effects such as > changes in how dir() works or (as Chris pointed out) due to more > members on the list type in 3.3. If you can't or won't give that > proof, there's no sense in continuing the discussion. > Wow! The RE Module thread I created is evolving into Unicode topics. That thread grew up so fast! DCJ