Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.084 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.83; '*S*': 0.00; 'changes': 0.15; 'discussion.': 0.16; 'expecting': 0.16; 'out)': 0.16; 'record,': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'why,': 0.16; '(not': 0.18; 'pointed': 0.19; 'example': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '---': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'related': 0.29; '3.2': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'testing.': 0.31; 'continuing': 0.33; 'sense': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'list': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'you.': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'due': 0.66; 'gut': 0.84; 'side-effects': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=modelnine.org; s=modelnine1012; t=1375099576; bh=RFOAcr+q2riFxg3FKqEUFYL/zYJRYLLsdhi/nAS1jYc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kZdXPUuR2S4S0egkjcOuJu4THNN+FmKxTL032qrDOOSFTVcK6VHSdMF2GkSYKeT2h xz/86tjg63Bmc7UvbBOl+mvCvmPPeDZ3zU1nLmfG7zVmj9bLzLp9bsmaCFQeQfGE8K ewUf+NlX6Gz4qUwMnzi2oCtm+6esCByMuN7r81SI= Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:06:12 +0200 From: Heiko Wundram User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/23.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: FSR and unicode compliance - was Re: RE Module Performance References: <571a6dfe-fd66-42cf-92fc-8b97cbe6e9e4@googlegroups.com> <51DFDE65.5040001@Gmail.com> <4f1067f6-bc99-42ad-9166-37fb228b90e8@googlegroups.com> <51f14395$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51f15e03$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8203e802-9dc5-44c5-9547-6e1947ee224b@googlegroups.com> <51f5847f$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1375100008 news.xs4all.nl 15912 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42454 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:51439 Am 29.07.2013 13:43, schrieb wxjmfauth@gmail.com: > 3.2 >>>> timeit.timeit("r = dir(list)") > 22.300465007102908 > > 3.3 >>>> timeit.timeit("r = dir(list)") > 27.13981129541519 > > For the record, I do not put your example to contradict > you. I was expecting such a result even before testing. > > Now, if you do not understand why, you do not understand. > There nothing wrong. Please give a single *proof* (not your gut feeling) that this is related to the FSR, and not rather due to other side-effects such as changes in how dir() works or (as Chris pointed out) due to more members on the list type in 3.3. If you can't or won't give that proof, there's no sense in continuing the discussion. -- --- Heiko.