Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.292 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.55; '*S*': 0.13; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'so?': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'behave': 0.16; 'blocks': 0.16; 'complaining': 0.16; 'garbage': 0.16; 'saying.': 0.16; 'thread,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'example': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'string,': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'remotely': 0.31; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'much.': 0.36; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; "you've": 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'july': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'world': 0.66; 'attention.': 0.68; 'real-world': 0.68; 'attention': 0.75; 'topic,': 0.81; 'analog': 0.84; 'bench': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'received:195.238': 0.84; 'received:195.238.6': 0.84; 'received:belgacom.be': 0.84; 'received:isp.belgacom.be': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBADhn9VFtgEev/2dsb2JhbAANTsFdgS2DGAEBAQQ4QBELGAkWCAcJAwIBAgEPJRETBgICh3oDpgSIZA1XiAeNFYJvFoNvA5V2gWmMJog8 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:51:26 +0200 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130704 Icedove/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: RE Module Performance References: <571a6dfe-fd66-42cf-92fc-8b97cbe6e9e4@googlegroups.com> <51DFDE65.5040001@Gmail.com> <4f1067f6-bc99-42ad-9166-37fb228b90e8@googlegroups.com> <51f14395$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51f15e03$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8203e802-9dc5-44c5-9547-6e1947ee224b@googlegroups.com> <51F4DA25.3030304@rece.vub.ac.be> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:27:00 +0200 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1375082821 news.xs4all.nl 15916 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50718 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:51422 Op 28-07-13 20:19, Joshua Landau schreef: > On 28 July 2013 09:45, Antoon Pardon > wrote: > > Op 27-07-13 20:21, wxjmfauth@gmail.com > schreef: > > utf-8 or any (utf) never need and never spend their time > in reencoding. > > > So? That python sometimes needs to do some kind of background > processing is not a problem, whether it is garbage collection, > allocating more memory, shufling around data blocks or reencoding a > string, that doesn't matter. If you've got a real world example where > one of those things noticeably slows your program down or makes the > program behave faulty then you have something that is worthy of > attention. > > > Somewhat off topic, but befitting of the triviality of this thread, do I > understand correctly that you are saying garbage collection never causes > any noticeable slowdown in real-world circumstances? That's not remotely > true. No that is not what I am saying. But if jmf would be complaining about garbage collection in an analog way as he is complaining about the FSR, he wouldn't be complaining about real-world circumstances but about theorectical possibilities and micro bench marks. In those circunstances the "garbage collection problem" wouldn't be worthy of attention much. -- Antoon Pardon