Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'armin': 0.09; 'ascii': 0.09; 'committing': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'mess': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'sentence': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; '"it\'s': 0.16; 'hurts': 0.16; 'patches': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'discussions': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; 'meant': 0.20; 'help.': 0.21; 'code,': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'unicode': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'developers': 0.25; 'right.': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'accidentally': 0.31; 'becoming': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; 'actively': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'common': 0.35; 'done': 0.36; 'requiring': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'above,': 0.60; 'improved': 0.60; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; 'between': 0.67; 'internet': 0.71; 'influence': 0.74; 'friends': 0.81; 'increasingly': 0.84; 'differences': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 23:53:29 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-191-18.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389225233 news.xs4all.nl 2953 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49776 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63539 On 08/01/2014 23:34, rdsteph@mac.com wrote: > I'm so sorry for the mess in my post above, I apologize to all, I accidentally hit return ... > > I just meant to say that internet programming using ASCII urls is so common and important that it hurts that Python 3 makes it so much harder. It sure would be great if Python 3 could be improved to allow such programming to be done using ASCII urls without requiring all the unicode overhead. > > Armin is right. Calling his post a rant doesn't help. > I disagree. If you want to make friends and influence people, your opening sentence is not "It's becoming increasingly harder to have reasonable discussions about the differences between Python 2 and 3 because one language is dead and the other is actively developed." If Python 2 is dead, why are the core developers wasting their time committing patches to the Python 2 source code, because they have nothing better to do? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence