Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder2.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.053 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'guido': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'oh,': 0.09; 'looked': 0.10; 'itself.': 0.11; 'thread': 0.11; '*any*': 0.16; 'eternal': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'ignores': 0.16; 'respected.': 0.16; 'well-known': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'certainly': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'code.': 0.20; '4.0': 0.22; 'back.': 0.22; '15,': 0.23; 'somebody': 0.23; "haven't": 0.23; 'thus': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'coding': 0.27; 'first,': 0.27; 'guess': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'bad.': 0.29; "people's": 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'up.': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'gets': 0.32; 'johnson': 0.32; "he's": 0.33; 'handle': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'guys': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'along': 0.35; 'feed': 0.35; 'doing': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'subject: (': 0.36; 'maintaining': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'far': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'shows': 0.38; 'gives': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:" 10': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'school': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'here': 0.65; 'become': 0.65; 'him,': 0.66; 'opinions': 0.72; 'yourself,': 0.75; '2013': 0.84; 'cop': 0.84; 'motto': 0.84; 'this...': 0.84; 'promised': 0.91; 'rick': 0.91; 'subject:Class': 0.91; 'divided': 0.93; 'responses': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uZ/KSj0Lq1OXbSl0ZSBgEkWGTxHof6/COs63hEOMaUo=; b=Dxi+9cHMCeay4jt+JEPFCSofBNLmSD4oaSmrEEXq7pNRjdUONIRwbRh+XGXSR71Qoj hKAQA2B5SMglpwQOGay+FC9XJb8NNi70Q+ATQ0XeaIw5CBFylOGp9mvxrwFPyZ2lvyne ieaP+PEh/zD5ymSCP/7IAbZJ0kbLuyD3g/TXlOiRluZ7A67iAUUuDIQD+X28cX65gdQa vK4C/ZXgA9sQorP/HkEYHWNPJEPoThxL4IpNZlaT0wV2OhDj4D5fd/sz0KLjPfIR+YnM jC3RGU5OjiY7f077QdxLN1emH2g0KBF6J9eX6SxIyPPb5dyqH/UjcfpH4URbGZNMKPTv Aecg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9dc26878-d8b8-4f0d-95e1-c51313daafa2@googlegroups.com> References: <5171d66e-580e-4bb3-bb8d-7e3f1de70ec4@googlegroups.com> <9dc26878-d8b8-4f0d-95e1-c51313daafa2@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:57:58 +1100 Subject: Re: PyWart (Terminolgy): "Class" From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1358197081 news.xs4all.nl 6841 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42142 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:36819 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Peter wrote: > Real mature lot of responses here guys - shows how much you have grown up. > > Reading this thread looked more like observing a bunch of 3rd grader - somebody offers an opinion and all you can do is ridicule it? > > Real mature - certainly gives Python a good name having followers like this... > > But then I guess I will cop flack for this rejoinder too... Rick Johnson is a well-known troll. Opinion is divided as to the best way to handle the matter; one school follows the "Don't feed the trolls" motto and ignores him, the other trolls him right back. Rick has promised for a long time now that he's going to produce a Python 4000 (though I suspect Guido will produce Python 4.0 first, so it'll become Python 5000), but so far we haven't seen *any* code. His eternal complaints about Python are thus pure trolling and not well respected. I'm sorry the forum comes across sounding immature, but it's like a good game of Whack-A-Troll, or what Railbastard calls an "apparatusing". It's the community's way of maintaining itself. Expressing opinions won't get you flamed. Demanding that other people write a whole lot of code to suit your ridiculous notions of "warts" and doing none of the coding yourself, and keeping this up for years and years, WILL eventually get you flamed. And along the way, it gets you into a lot of people's killfiles. Oh, and Dennis? Mal. Bad. From the Latin. :) ChrisA