Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'referring': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'argument.': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'libre': 0.16; 'openoffice': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; '(but': 0.19; 'user.': 0.19; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'mention': 0.26; 'switch': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'raised': 0.31; 'subject:programs': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'advice': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'in.': 0.36; 'surely': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'others.': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'extremely': 0.39; 'use.': 0.39; 'simply': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'name': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'office,': 0.64; 'interest': 0.64; '"best': 0.84; 'subject:free': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YH8mnMDnvFd2W5Xz1BUk7i8wbSlC7gEK/bm2BmvC6Kw=; b=dm8fb1ibmztEv4JppEPspLcJAKMEtal0xh44bjzSEnoNDggrifivfSQeCHg2oWJ4PI BYXTW9l2QwRAZAwEudHdpeqsEQWvdhdBfFaQaom5iPSbMjaa4p0RUfTgYBr8Qm/shvtT nxq2KYwV1PtcDO7i50+1FvPvPpkfAgaOHfG8xoacN4eBI5P/kSfUX/nkwVcngf+Oth+1 X0WLqjx3ptHnBU7b7edOvHKYInKPuv1duFJxNbN1aa9FoDT2xMRYcxMbt8n5/BJK5Vya AZB6AE4U9LbE15sKM8GvXSZGFLK52ARvdcTB+ecYbwLmALCzoDpefDwqp7/9fbHo9/w8 nxgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.201.10 with SMTP id jw10mr36298394pbc.25.1389139772465; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 16:09:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7wfvozfofm.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <7wfvp2gg6v.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <52CC2D94.9040401@gmail.com> <7wfvozfofm.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 11:09:32 +1100 Subject: Re: [OT] Migrating from non-free programs to LibreOffice From: Chris Angelico To: Ben Finney Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389139775 news.xs4all.nl 2916 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53553 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63454 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> Sad. This is yet another of those politically-charged distinctions >> that, quite frankly, I have no interest in. > > I raised the point because you're giving advice to others on which > software to use. If you have no interest in the distinctions, perhaps > you should cultivate such an interest to know what software you're > referring to when advising others. The mention of OpenOffice was extremely tangential. I was simply making a point about there being a "best option" that's hard to attain (but probably worthwhile long-term) and a "next-best option" that's less of a jump for the end user. If you take that original post and switch the name OpenOffice to Libre Office, it will not make a penn'orth of difference to the argument. If I were giving advice in that post, the advice being given was surely "use LaTeX". ChrisA