Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.104 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.79; '*S*': 0.00; 'syntax': 0.03; 'subject:access': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'proposed': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; '(which': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'module.': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'objects': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'more,': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'modules': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'information': 0.63; 'stated': 0.69; '2013': 0.84; 'distinguish': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZStaTuIaLK3eJY+jnrpvU3b3b6Q0F+Xbq6lkohgR6LI=; b=gVDO7C1MgkDEqb3ZV6ulO0UFCb9g/xAYUElGoY6t+B2Cn4rlD8HnC+Sf0kC1tTOX3h d23h7UM4pFi+PbsYMzXhlAOXudy3qjPB7+UYoGN/WV1hW8YcaAmiE5z+ZB+OsStUBaJQ KfsbLR6ewpe+De2adxolmRO9WLZ7QDtRsHMerT/CpzD2bdlUBvdNoBe4/q8YJK7tdwsW WZKAc3IpsdALJIGMnNyGe8QcUl+QCMEHIuW53g3nq8P01eGvOn+jTL/9RvK/iyKpqmX5 3dx6ggh4aj5Qh4L+qXyqhKXutXYyKO16HWoZtm0qCtOAg3y8qqbb58hnQw4d6zTUgMAL uujg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8e9b2b0e-1c34-46cc-80c6-57fbb5fd756c@googlegroups.com> <50f03799$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9b64719e-1e06-47fa-a7e6-692a3dd360d0@googlegroups.com> <50f1066f$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:04:37 -0700 Subject: Re: PyWart: Module access syntax To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1358190311 news.xs4all.nl 6885 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40974 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:36812 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> Because modules and objects are not the same and someone who is reading = the source code NEEDS to know which "path members" are /modules/ and which = "path members" are /objects/. And he needs to know that very important inf= ormation WITHOUT opening source files to find out. What's more, if the purpose of the syntax is to distinguish modules from non-modules, then the syntax "os.path" (which you have stated would not change) would be misleading, because the "path" part is in fact a module. Your proposed syntax fails to even achieve its stated goal.