Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; '(at': 0.04; 'lines,': 0.07; 'modify': 0.07; 'repeated': 0.09; 'structure,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'file,': 0.19; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'import': 0.22; 'putting': 0.22; 'separate': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'convenient': 0.24; 'tend': 0.24; 'file.': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'chapter': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'installed': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'discovery': 0.31; 'embedding': 0.31; 'markup': 0.31; 'styles': 0.31; 'subject:programs': 0.31; 'up:': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'plain': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'similar': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'project': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'full': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'content,': 0.68; 'composing': 0.84; 'partially': 0.84; 'ram,': 0.84; 'divided': 0.91; 'subject:free': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=26kTI9AU10SS9oIQICKJAeYZ59ftGqhf9e2uWRaMgz8=; b=GH+rzbyHdGo/4RKTvRO5+5vQlSlXgulJKtuk9LpacQxTNNqYZkU/Bgk3S7X0o8EHMe iP20l4hYj3fQPSmhw1ICG505bZywyh/vlf/UQSfruuSsTfxvUXeZ0eR2MvVF8w+f6kUx yjDl+YZ08mI58EI7kgf/f5VDfyNclQEAlMK8El0nfrMFYHuzomDHAbx3JZSAiP9n2sJi j9E/787AZeeQxR66pIs7u2QLtbZTXYIBAV4AlOl8tRIyKXGdC3h64fKFKu6G4dt8kzlQ e3oKIyLqsjkFO/F1EOK3Jk/Oymf92yEaZt1TiGQzvAWPDXmZTlfQjQCxSAqvTbDzZkNB rLug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.247.6 with SMTP id ya6mr129839540pbc.45.1389113892437; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 08:58:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52CC2F0F.8040703@gmail.com> References: <7wfvp2gg6v.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <52CC2F0F.8040703@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 03:58:12 +1100 Subject: Re: [OT] Migrating from non-free programs to LibreOffice From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389113896 news.xs4all.nl 2919 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49828 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63437 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > I tend to add my own [styles] > for quotes, captions, etc. After composing the document, > then you modify the styles to set the spacings, fonts, indentations, > border lines, etc. The workflow is very similar to using LyX, or even a > plain markup language for that matter. That's all very well when you put everything into a single file, but how do you manage those styles across a multi-file book? Mum's project was partially rescued by the discovery that you can import styles from another document, but that's still unworkable for repeated edits. > The weakest part of LibreOffice is embedding images. And that's why this particular book is being divided up: it's full of images. Putting the whole thing into a single file makes that file way way too big to work with (at least on the computer Mum's using - it's X times larger than her installed RAM, so Writer is constantly hammering the page file), and there's no convenient way to read in only part of the file. Hence my recommendation of a markup system like LaTeX that simply *references* images, and which deliberately isn't WYSIWYG; plus, having the concept of content, structure, and style all separate means it's not difficult to build just one file - maybe not even a whole chapter - while still being confident that all pages reference the same styles. ChrisA