Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.03; 'url:pipermail': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'example:': 0.10; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:reference': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'two,': 0.16; 'url:general': 0.16; 'url:gmane': 0.16; 'url:thread': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '2015': 0.20; 'sep': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'discussion': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'moved': 0.27; 'then.': 0.27; "i'm": 0.30; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'hopefully': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'afraid': 0.67; 'day': 0.67; 'received:89': 0.80; 'browser.': 0.81; 'url:focus': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Terminology: "reference" versus "pointer" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 06:23:47 +0300 References: <85mvws6z45.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <85io7g6xy4.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <85egi46wng.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <1a1a1f6a-27ce-4c1b-807a-43eabaa04abb@googlegroups.com> <04ca9d7c-d02b-4329-bd94-4d18d86b3edf@googlegroups.com> <87egi375wb.fsf@gmail.com> <87wpvu5h7f.fsf@gmail.com> <55f61e8c$0$1660$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55f6333c$0$1636$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89.169.229.68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nh7pMV6R4Ep2NesdZFLFqYINJfY= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1442201128 news.xs4all.nl 23801 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39315 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96547 Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:22 am, Akira Li wrote: >> Look at the last example: >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/782626/focus=782704 > > > I'm afraid that page is broken in my browser. Can you not summarise, or link > to the specific message? I may be able to use another browser in a day or > two, but hopefully the discussion will have moved on by then. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2015-September/696631.html