Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'thread,': 0.16; 'titled': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'do.': 0.18; 'community,': 0.19; 'not,': 0.20; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'of.': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; '(see': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'primarily': 0.30; 'developers.': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'core': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'expression': 0.60; 'wonderful': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; 'feeling': 0.68; '8bit%:21': 0.69; 'respect': 0.70; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'expresses': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x9cthis': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Pragmatic Unicode (was Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3") Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 21:23:24 -0500 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389061420 news.xs4all.nl 2855 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38289 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63401 On 1/6/2014 5:25 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > I do respect you, and all the core developers. As I've said elsewhere > in the thread, I greatly appreciate everything you do. I dedicate a > great deal of time and energy to the Python community, primarily becaus= e > of the amazing product that you have all built. Let me add a quote from Nick's essay (see other new thread). '''Ned Batchelder=E2=80=99s wonderful Pragmatic Unicode talk/essay could = just as=20 well be titled =E2=80=9CThis is why Python 3 exists=E2=80=9D.''' http://nedbatchelder.com/text/unipain.html I do not know if Nick's re-titling expression your intent or not, but it = expresses my feeling also. Part of what makes the presentation great is=20 the humor, which we need more of. I recommend it to anyone who has not=20 seen it. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy