Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'nick': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'threads.': 0.16; "python's": 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'points': 0.29; 'related': 0.29; 'developers.': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'area': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'major': 0.40; 'new': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; 'real': 0.63; 'total': 0.65; 'attention.': 0.68; 'subject: & ': 0.68; 'social': 0.69; 'respect': 0.70; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'url:latest': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Python 3 Q & A (Nick C.) updated Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 21:07:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389060440 news.xs4all.nl 2843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56191 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63397 As a counterpoint to 2 versus 3: http://python-notes.curiousefficiency.org/en/latest/python3/questions_and_answers.html by Nick Coughlan, one of Python's major core developers. A couple of points related to the other threads. 1. There were real social and technical reasons for the non-2.8 pep (404). 2. Python 3 is a work in progress with respect to the new text model. In particular wire protocol programming is a known problem area and will get attention. But it is only a small part of the total Python universe. -- Terry Jan Reedy