Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!usenetcore.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'that?': 0.05; 'instance.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'example:': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:reference': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'url:general': 0.16; 'url:gmane': 0.16; 'url:thread': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '2015': 0.20; 'sep': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.26; "can't": 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'url:org': 0.36; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'why': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'received:89': 0.80; 'url:focus': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Terminology: "reference" versus "pointer" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 04:22:31 +0300 References: <85mvws6z45.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <85io7g6xy4.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <85egi46wng.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <1a1a1f6a-27ce-4c1b-807a-43eabaa04abb@googlegroups.com> <04ca9d7c-d02b-4329-bd94-4d18d86b3edf@googlegroups.com> <87egi375wb.fsf@gmail.com> <87wpvu5h7f.fsf@gmail.com> <55f61e8c$0$1660$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89.169.229.68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3fHEFolzvIJXVLInyRP94kJrbz4= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1442193840 news.xs4all.nl 23782 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49500 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96542 Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:17 am, Akira Li wrote: > >> I don't see why the model that can't describe range(1) in Python 3 >> pretends to be complete. > > > Please explain. > > range(1) returns a range instance. What is hard about that? Look at the last example: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/782626/focus=782704