Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'scripts': 0.03; 'programmer': 0.03; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'read.': 0.03; 'debugging': 0.07; 'plenty': 0.07; 'subject:Error': 0.07; 'style.': 0.09; 'language,': 0.12; 'itself.': 0.14; 'expression,': 0.16; 'levels,': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'spacing': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'code,': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'coding': 0.22; 'creating': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'stick': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'room': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'easier': 0.31; 'received:10.0.0': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'fixing': 0.31; 'styles': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'alone': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'received:10.0': 0.36; 'similar': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'half': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'somebody': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'life,': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'show': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'refer': 0.63; 'between': 0.67; 'said:': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'embrace': 0.84; 'premature': 0.84; 'standards,': 0.84; 'dozen': 0.91; 'joel': 0.91; 'novice': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kXrmIdLwOxomeUI3f1ChlAc4d8Dd2/lT2fYOJ28cukQ=; b=RD1i18LLby+HWMiRo59BylY8g8jBNnC+jiOhZZgmlZsyBwrdyT2xKo3jKyr0fczpcb ZM6Wt6RVKb/ZM2juAotQIscKKXtq3GXRcpyvC3hLWgyem9M7ejrD5QMaRcNwcE8TSaYh OwwQNW/pQIdNFWMYAwurPgk9HB24N1LZ4JPnClYsSQyBPsZxolGEhzZ2SqE+DmAann7h v47hMupgXbU/QkPe8ACs12bugNj22sGasasanBSxbCszW8MC7D4AT1WMjoFsLOGSTsWB ZojWW9pg/ELVScZtCHCMShQA3kuNLFZE0b67hmuh2hn+0ViWC31TcJD31WZVXYYfaU0a rF9A== X-Received: by 10.60.135.3 with SMTP id po3mr714063oeb.15.1376338567730; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:16:04 -0400 From: Devyn Collier Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Python Mailing List Subject: Re: Am I not seeing the Error? References: <5206F4AB.8050204@Gmail.com> <5208D625.2000103@Gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1376338570 news.xs4all.nl 15984 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37575 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:52428 On 08/12/2013 12:56 PM, Joel Goldstick wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Roy Smith wrote: >> I can't quite sort out the multiple quoting levels, but somebody said: >> >>>>> Programming like that is called trolling. A programmer that uses >>>>> trolling is called a troll. A troll can also refer to such a line >>>>> of code itself. My scripts contain a lot of trolls. It is easier >>>>> for me to read trolls than "typical" coding styles. >> Please tell me this is all just an elaborate joke. > I was thinking something similar Roy. Devyn, you may think you code > differently, but you don't. You have a half of dozen people trying to > show you how your style causes confusion between what you think you > are writing and what you actually coded. There is plenty of room in > coding for personal expression, but what you call 'trolling' is not > that. If you like semicolons, use another language that needs them. > I think you think it is some version of premature optimization. Since > you are a novice at the language, stick with the standards, and learn > to embrace them. Ultimately standard coding styles has nothing to do > with code optimization. It has to do with readability. Although this > is a small example, you can see that if several people get involved > debugging it, the first thing that gets in the way is your > non-standard coding style. If you want to code alone your whole life, > do as you like. But the time spent reading and fixing code in the > lifetime of any useful software system is greater than the time spent > creating the original code. >> -- >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > I know using semicolons will not optimize the code, but it is actually easier for me to read. I can handle such code better than spacing it out. DCJ