Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 13:43:30 +1100 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5695fd0e$0$11119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <0529e7d6-0de1-4e38-9a19-2b5ed1ecc39f@googlegroups.com> <5696e77e$0$1597$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5d7a5bb1-f229-4755-a0bf-dd3ad9d99fba@googlegroups.com> <36c2dbd5-e8e4-4e56-8c4e-ffb2da51875f@googlegroups.com> <46334134-1fd1-493a-9c8a-6f14956cf60a@googlegroups.com> <18bmy.95549$X%2.42835@fx45.am4> <4FE88B5E-615B-4938-9AE5-F7EA2D199612@mac.com> <569A996C.2060909@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 4PKN/ByuOi7Y4NDo+fYFcAzXckE/fimkJ7LErMaU7LHQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.108 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.80; '*S*': 0.02; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.11; '2016': 0.16; 'damages.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'shot.': 0.16; 'subject:writing': 0.16; 'time).': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'am,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'then.': 0.27; 'ray': 0.29; 'typically': 0.29; 'certainly': 0.30; 'mention': 0.30; 'michael': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'late': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'data': 0.39; 'company': 0.60; 'ever': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'press': 0.61; 'total': 0.62; 'prices': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'companies': 0.63; 'sum': 0.69; 'money': 0.71; 'won': 0.76; 'demand': 0.79; 'william': 0.79; '6:26': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'off,': 0.84; 'subject:Stop': 0.84; 'sue': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'spoke': 0.91; 'war.': 0.91; 'reliable,': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KjTzSf5y29t62X6xwB0OztrvOXWezhQTZVMDe78Xfkk=; b=aVrXjFODr/9D03dk3yjsAacpsc8Hfd6a3cxapH3dC93EL6wK38WfiGNfgL4rNT7Zyw lZieS2otZzUqm5YllRH+G31vRgV6zHJqrckWlGRRtQ1PLqq7EocSr+/3NqEOeTuHnI5n 3NF20+zFZa/YoGWtUBXvbsajWXjeJZuzPiYmmUYdrJUSDbVCVxCrbvy2tO8FaQBXZ5S3 +jOjVWYOEtr2RQYqcUQ8GLm6GxyeiUYLcx/tjl2ikO2FxIJYa1rPA18Mb2gpyFH1eeGN jFfuoBJUkcavNnhM9a2m/Lc1iIgOSu9C51EYu72zIv5Siw9X/eSbsKFWRvoohz2glMaT /IhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KjTzSf5y29t62X6xwB0OztrvOXWezhQTZVMDe78Xfkk=; b=Gkrye2iX7RNkVCeNonxB5aOwstRgGbq2D28wd29G+S5+UmMbScuOWmnVWZALLIVESd 5Rr4LlqQlXwyUrzF7o1vgtP5agwwJS8ffp66glaB/OYPx5FBBBMZMtTsb8sCN7isc0HP ujoN0OYS62lb7EuYkAdtZojBjCmc27h1p2VW2t6vLFxYWL1CaUzd36ws39QaJE7l5h29 gHiCTpk0cxolPiu25zc2loJk6CVrYC33P5Nb8ZEAKmZ/lBddYcBnxFeSUvTJ4WiDD6In 905nGoRdIRdZ97cunDv5d9Tpv7xMQeVrpq46s4sL4aJGFQoVpGSBzML9IrQs3qdniuAR M6hA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQleCWOEf6xuW3/u+CW6gwj3DDcneqNcBx4v9DGPBl2TlRo6PuTes/+Vm3F2fB064KSh4iVRlO1hmDIUNw+HGa6YXGwp6g== X-Received: by 10.107.47.162 with SMTP id v34mr15472430iov.19.1452998610664; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:43:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <569A996C.2060909@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:101829 On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 6:26 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 01/16/2016 11:00 AM, William Ray Wing wrote: >> It was known at the time. It was certainly known by the companies >> that were ripped off, but they were typically small to really small >> and couldn=E2=80=99t get traction for their stories in a press that was = in >> thrall to Microsoft. It was pretty much only mentioned by contrarian >> writers like Cringely, and for the most part was lost in the noise >> over the browser war. > > Stac, the company who Microsoft ripped off to make DoubleSpace, did > successfully sue MS and won (fairly big time). MS ended up paying them > a fair sum of money in damages. But it was too late by then. Stac's > original product, and MS DoubleSpace, was no longer really in demand as > hard drive prices fell and speeds increased. Not to mention the massive MASSIVE risks of doublespacing your drive - like total data loss. Even after it was made more reliable, the reputation was shot. Nobody I spoke to would ever trust that kind of drive-level compression. ChrisA