Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'win32': 0.03; 'true,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; '(windows': 0.16; 'amd64': 0.16; 'antoine': 0.16; 'compute': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'figures': 0.19; 'version.': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'certainly': 0.24; 'month,': 0.24; 'scroll': 0.24; 'versions': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'largest': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'page.': 0.31; '3.x': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; 'table,': 0.31; 'use?': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'table': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'next': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'recent': 0.39; 'highest': 0.39; 'according': 0.40; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'up,': 0.60; 'numbers': 0.61; 'further': 0.61; 'sum': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'total': 0.65; 'click': 0.77; 'notion': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; 'incredibly': 0.96 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=kzmv9JMJyuDRa5vkjkRlUx3aKd8sRrgqk54ACLM8O2o=; b=J+fix7voNxtMeX0ClXbymeJsXtUiQqPVHnKyTev+bARqyoGrCGzxmKRW63xx0gTPHU fwwsX4G7tC1F+zfKNhmyrkp9S3q+fGPP7YDK3N/yT5PsLYytpSzO9x0XcmQn4Kre35FX apD8QJ9y3A60nGHQcLHzyDNBrh7nE6vGIsz0vHqI3cHo/zX1Tx4j4kdtOl1CRaAJA2eI D9K39e7YttBAA82QM4IatuPqMs76ydFbx/bZlbvRSlTvEy9YD2xLzBO5mtSYTvMU7q3d diwGfPFr9uyXf73IosrqC/ab5uCMgT1yCbsWDLrGKTV95RdqcxL39VaCr9ORrjcDulrv pK5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.133.6 with SMTP id oy6mr11190384pbb.153.1389050671098; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 15:24:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <52CB3403.3000903@udel.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:24:30 +1100 Subject: Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389050680 news.xs4all.nl 2952 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58728 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63375 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Terry Reedy udel.edu> writes: >> >> On 1/6/2014 11:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >> > People don't use? According to available figures, there are more > downloads of >> > Python 3 than downloads of Python 2 (Windows installers, mostly): >> > http://www.python.org/webstats/ >> >> While I would like the claim to be true, I do not see 2 versus 3 >> downloads on that page. Did you mean another link? > > Just click on a recent month, scroll down to the "Total URLs By kB" > table, and compute the sum of the largest numbers for each Python > version. Here's what I see there (expanding on what I said in the other post, which was based on one table further up, URLs by hit count) for December: 3.3.3: 1214571 - amd64 627672 - win32 586899 2.7.6: 1049096 - win32 607972 - amd64 441124 The next highest number is 167K downloads, so I'm going to ignore their figures as they won't make more than 15% difference in these stats. This is 2263667 total downloads of the current versions of Python, 46% 2.7.6 and 54% 3.3.3. That's not incredibly significant statistically, but certainly it disproves the notion that 3.x isn't used at all. ChrisA