Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'concurrently': 0.07; 'defaults': 0.07; 'handlers': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; '256;': 0.16; 'descriptors.': 0.16; 'osx': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'linux': 0.17; 'ryan': 0.18; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'systems.': 0.23; 'opens': 0.23; 'windows': 0.26; 'subject:?': 0.30; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'richard': 0.34; 'all.': 0.34; 'lie': 0.34; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'operating': 0.35; 'file': 0.35; 'received:au': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'subject:with': 0.38; 'open': 0.38; 'files': 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'might': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'lower': 0.63; 'thousands': 0.65; 'limit': 0.67; 'have.': 0.77; '03:38': 0.84; 'subject:always': 0.84; 'subject:necessary': 0.84; 'received:110': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Lie Ryan Subject: Re: Is a with on open always necessary? Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 05:22:52 +1100 References: <4F198BD1.4040301@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 110-175-240-90.static.tpgi.com.au User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1327515796 news.xs4all.nl 6868 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51784 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:19416 On 01/26/2012 04:17 AM, K Richard Pixley wrote: > On 1/21/12 03:38 , Lie Ryan wrote: >> It is only strictly necessary for programs that opens thousands of files >> in a short while, since the operating system may limit of the number of >> active file handlers you can have. > > The number you're looking for is 20 on many unix systems. That's all. 20 > concurrently open file descriptors. > > Modern systems open that number up somewhat, or make it tailorable. But > the number is still much lower than you might expect. From what I can gather, Linux defaults to 1024, Windows 16384, and OSX 256; I doubt many people would need to work with other OSes.