Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'referring': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'strings.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'thread': 0.14; 'commented': 0.16; 'lurking': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'usable': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'to?': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '3.x': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'info.': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'plain': 0.33; 'comment': 0.34; '"the': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'monday': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'january': 0.37; 'wrong': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'about?': 0.84; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'approach.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ned Batchelder Subject: Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:22:34 -0500 References: <201401060932.35410.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201401061617.06746.gheskett@wdtv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 18.189.30.229 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389046967 news.xs4all.nl 2860 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57602 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63357 On 1/6/14 5:08 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 06/01/2014 21:42, Ned Batchelder wrote: >> On 1/6/14 4:33 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> On 06/01/2014 21:17, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine: >>>> >>>>> On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>>>> And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a >>>>>> problem with everyday dealing with strings. >>>>> >>>>> Strings of what? And what specific 'everyday' problem are you >>>>> referring >>>>> to? >>>> >>>> Strings start a new thread here at nominally weekly intervals. Seems >>>> to me >>>> that might be usable info. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Gene >>>> >>> >>> That strikes me as being as useful as "The PEP 393 FSR is completely >>> wrong but I'm not going to tell you why" approach. >>> >> >> Please stop baiting people. >> > > What are you on about? The comment has been made that "its quite plain > to me that 3.x python has a problem with everyday dealing with strings". > Myself, Terry Reedy and Steven D'Aprano have all commented on this, > asking for more data. We've been given nothing, which is precisely what > our resident unicode expert has given us. > I'm on about your comment being a gratuitous jab at someone who isn't even participating in the thread. Stop it. -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com