Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'referring': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'strings.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'thread': 0.14; 'commented': 0.16; 'lurking': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'usable': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'to?': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '3.x': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'info.': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'plain': 0.33; 'comment': 0.34; '"the': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'monday': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'january': 0.37; 'wrong': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'about?': 0.84; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; 'approach.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 22:08:27 +0000 References: <201401060932.35410.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201401061617.06746.gheskett@wdtv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-207-36.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389046128 news.xs4all.nl 2971 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50929 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63355 On 06/01/2014 21:42, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 1/6/14 4:33 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 06/01/2014 21:17, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Monday 06 January 2014 16:16:13 Terry Reedy did opine: >>> >>>> On 1/6/2014 9:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>>> And from my lurking here, its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a >>>>> problem with everyday dealing with strings. >>>> >>>> Strings of what? And what specific 'everyday' problem are you referring >>>> to? >>> >>> Strings start a new thread here at nominally weekly intervals. Seems >>> to me >>> that might be usable info. >>> >>> Cheers, Gene >>> >> >> That strikes me as being as useful as "The PEP 393 FSR is completely >> wrong but I'm not going to tell you why" approach. >> > > Please stop baiting people. > What are you on about? The comment has been made that "its quite plain to me that 3.x python has a problem with everyday dealing with strings". Myself, Terry Reedy and Steven D'Aprano have all commented on this, asking for more data. We've been given nothing, which is precisely what our resident unicode expert has given us. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence