Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'migration': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'suggest': 0.14; 'up-to-date': 0.14; 'birds': 0.16; 'fork': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; '(by': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'updating': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'possibility': 0.29; 'ease': 0.30; 'waste': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'easier': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; '(e.g.': 0.33; 'common': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'operating': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'hat': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'entire': 0.61; 'size.': 0.65; 'hours': 0.66; 'benefit': 0.68; 'killing': 0.84; 'to:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.84; 'old,': 0.85; 'outcome': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=iZt5PZckxkyzeU4UDapb5orvsc+FDyKWwELnVV5L5rA=; b=MU7QDC9+CKnFVs01MKxmegzj8gYByE8nWKiNDtN/NTf1y22VLDAn+nLuXG+JDo76nz QohsYla7N8yV365hEwHlNKkhTlON+kACWHlhT3L4fCuM8wKCQHAqAYCilk2cBFpVG7zM l6TyHjLkbwtW+IjmAuzUK196UYx++iJy5uLDpbx6IQ7E2s8Z5/lB/YV8YV/qXQjSWb0K oQHLEbDxcQZwt30C2a63mdMw0UVpopcoV5GkrhPDL1ZxqeSRcmxNUHDpXtxmjoxhxwgm C0vk/Umf/4YfgkLKenfohJgunttfpyImVl3ZeksmNJXpcSH2578pChzYrJUo4DJBXK4J 6jhg== X-Received: by 10.229.13.133 with SMTP id c5mr180805808qca.22.1389044626800; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:43:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Devin Jeanpierre Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:43:06 -0800 Subject: Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" To: Mark Lawrence Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "comp.lang.python" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389044629 news.xs4all.nl 2859 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42574 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63352 On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I find all this intriguing. People haven't found time to migrate from > Python 2 to Python 3, but now intend finding time to produce a fork of > Python 2 which will ease the migration to Python 3. Have I got that > correct? Keeping old, unsupported (by upstream) things up-to-date is a common operation (e.g. this is what Red Hat does for an entire operating system). It might take a few hours to backport a module or bugfix you want, but updating an entire million-LOC codebase would take significantly longer. Plus, if a benefit of backporting things is an easier eventual migration to 3.x, it's killing two birds with one stone. At any rate it's not a possibility to sneer at and suggest is improbable or a waste of time. It is a rational outcome for a codebase of a large enough size. -- Devin