Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'vast': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; '404': 0.16; 'happy.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'unhappy': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'bytes': 0.24; 'developers': 0.25; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "i'm": 0.30; 'subject:About': 0.31; "they'll": 0.31; 'core': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'details': 0.65; 'customers': 0.66; 'batchelder': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:44:41 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-19-129.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1389015901 news.xs4all.nl 2833 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51812 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63280 On 06/01/2014 12:39, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > I'm not talking about the technical details of bytes and Unicode. I'm > talking about making customers happy. > Simply scrap PEP 404 and the currently unhappy customers will be happy as they'll be free to do all the work they want on Python 2.8, as my understanding is that the vast majority of the Python core developers won't do it for them. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence