Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'override': 0.07; 'enhancements': 0.09; 'global,': 0.09; 'naturally': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'specifying': 0.09; 'itself.': 0.11; 'argument': 0.15; 'explicitly': 0.15; 'importing': 0.15; 'argument.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'thoughts': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'meant': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'module': 0.23; 'split': 0.23; 'import': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'not.': 0.27; 'object,': 0.27; 'methods.': 0.29; 'function': 0.30; 'keyword': 0.31; "i'd": 0.31; 'language.': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'enhanced': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'subject:?': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'false': 0.35; 'filter': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'should': 0.37; 'setting': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'version': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:e 20': 0.39; 'mark': 0.40; 'subject:the': 0.40; 'why': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'default': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'believe': 0.67; 'choose': 0.68; 'obvious': 0.72; 'received:89': 0.80; 'alone,': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'subject:Set': 0.91; 'not:': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:06:30 +0100 References: <557f6676$0$21718$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-160-119.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: <557f6676$0$21718$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 52 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1434434802 news.xs4all.nl 2885 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49495 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:92661 On 16/06/2015 00:57, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I have a function in a module which is intended to be used by importing > that name alone, then used interactively: > > from module import edir > edir(args) > > > edir is an enhanced version of dir, and one of the enhancements is that > you can filter out dunder methods. I have reason to believe that people > are split on their opinion on whether dunder methods should be shown by > default or not: some people want to see them, others do not. Since edir > is meant to be used interactively, I want to give people a setting to > control whether they get dunders by default or not. > > I have two ideas for this, a module-level global, or a flag set on the > function object itself. Remember that the usual way of using this will be > "from module import edir", there are two obvious ways to set the global: > > import module > module.dunders = False > > # -or- > > edir.__globals__['dunders'] = False > > > Alternatively, I can use a flag set on the function object itself: > > edir.dunders = False > > > Naturally you can always override the default by explicitly specifying a > keyword argument edir(obj, dunders=flag). > > Thoughts and feedback? Please vote: a module global, or a flag on the > object? Please give reasons, and remember that the function is intended > for interactive use. > > For interactive use I'd be perfectly happy with just the keyword argument. Why bother toggling something when I can explicitly set it in the call each and every time? If I have to choose it's a flag on the object, just no competition. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence