Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Cem Karan Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Quote of the day Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 06:39:16 -0400 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <573acd5f$0$1603$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87twhxf5nl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de aV3cZj3/d88uc9++ENUeOQdT1ARFn7EAV9RszHbwILYQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.03; 'source,': 0.04; 'tests,': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; '"own': 0.16; 'also:': 0.16; 'bugs.': 0.16; 'commented': 0.16; 'passed.': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'up*': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'odd': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'library': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'fix': 0.21; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'component': 0.23; 'third-party': 0.23; 'thanks,': 0.24; 'downloaded': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'figure': 0.27; 'least': 0.27; 'errors.': 0.27; 'code': 0.30; 'getting': 0.33; 'third': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'unit': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'faster': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'received:209.85.220': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'some': 0.40; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'office': 0.62; 'subject:day': 0.67; 'feeling': 0.72; 'discovered': 0.83; 'subject:Quote': 0.84; 'glad': 0.87; '+1000': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=NAsSrazKs8nOF2kD2MqH6k/lYLvXCjE63Bj8Yn84vgU=; b=wwXSvxEAtZM5XsWStE8SIezmJT/SIIpew0YlFlTuugpZKxWwDTuIcLd50kMH1ri6xy gj4t0/1OFfgL2D4FhJ0noUYMUOWpuL/K0VlZ6vU8cnz0XIV7O7iquvjmX7W9MIfFsCGN BWjbzcL4SzNM50miP1rwvz/emGZjk4hSLZ6vopaDpuXtueLC3BxugTjND/VayGe0keLC 0obvRippQKfm1JuEOfZ7cCKdNDJpS1thhhVnXf5+6bWAhUCj6rmRZfAx+67970rQoFA3 Sy7GxOqO2YqsFj0oDaOGw6JnZ8uXqXYtfyTKsHVaJ80L2wfhvKyPdAtSBrbd04pHKELv cpIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=NAsSrazKs8nOF2kD2MqH6k/lYLvXCjE63Bj8Yn84vgU=; b=TrLcSU37PLDI8PURzNpO31d7R6PhknRJ5nDw164VhOmFqrAxUTwG1wUjmERnOAmptf Eso/5+FaXPQmNI9wDVegcgr9Th4F31iJmKQXph4UiElSaRd1IbASc3uQ4x7tWbaJgHdh IENMIDuh2YdAqMx1CVSg7tqya6BvSbjr36ngZ2+1jSm3rMBf8kTE8ODSLsBfAvHlnZzS f+gaglqfo0on1fze83eUI/ixxW1C/Kpx4RCy7yHvGy0GkUMrsgBiXY87ftFbQeqyKkjy 8MTjXlr+Rg6MzklI8OLODK1qwnHHkL0kFguqf7m38sHWJXI8QXEHcbOwE+32eVF+ubN3 UXuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FW/yMlErgK+Zfr5b6TQGBBKHXf6KJlmk2LTOgVxx7NE4CAyHdHlIchcxiiUgUwC+g== X-Received: by 10.55.197.203 with SMTP id k72mr456378qkl.15.1463481557294; Tue, 17 May 2016 03:39:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87twhxf5nl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <573acd5f$0$1603$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87twhxf5nl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108731 On May 17, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Radek Hol=FD : >=20 >> 2016-05-17 9:50 GMT+02:00 Steven D'Aprano < >> steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>: >>=20 >>> Overhead in the office today: >>>=20 >>> "I don't have time to learn an existing library - much faster to = make >>> my own mistakes!" >>=20 >> *THUMBS UP* At least they are aware of that "own mistakes" part... = Not >> like my employer... >=20 > Also: >=20 > With a third party solution I don't need to fix the bugs. >=20 > But with an in-house solution I at least *can* fix the bugs. >=20 > The feeling of powerlessness can be crushing when you depend on a > third-party component that is broken with no fix in sight. +1000 on this one. Just downloaded and used a library that came with = unit tests, which all passed. When I started using it, I kept getting = odd errors. Digging into it, I discovered they had commented out the = bodies of some of the unit tests... glad it was open source, at least I = *could* dig into the code and figure out what was going on :/ Thanks, Cem Karan=