Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'globals': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'still,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'do.': 0.22; 'arguments': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'pep': 0.29; 'wasting': 0.29; 'certainly': 0.30; 'waste': 0.30; 'language.': 0.32; 'clarify': 0.33; 'raising': 0.33; 'could': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; "won't": 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'provide': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'you.': 0.64; 'therefore': 0.67; 'hoping': 0.77; 'pythonistas,': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 02:15:16 +0100 References: <253e3584-1d4d-4e6f-b42f-2cdbfa4ad785@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.147.66.69 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <253e3584-1d4d-4e6f-b42f-2cdbfa4ad785@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441243208 news.xs4all.nl 23815 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42611 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95913 On 02/09/2015 23:25, tdev@freenet.de wrote: > Therefore still hoping a new PEP will arise. > > @Mark Lawrence > This response I have not checked. Can you provide arguments or clarify your statement? > The over use of globals is never to be encouraged, which is precisely what this would do. You could try raising this on python-ideas but I suspect you'd be wasting your time, so writing a PEP would almost certainly be a waste of time. Still, if you've got free time go ahead, I won't stop you. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence