Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: What exactly is "exact" (was Clean Singleton Docstrings) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:00:36 -0400 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <201607191635.45810.gheskett@shentel.net> <87lh0xqnmi.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1468984529.3605005.671271489.50995BFE@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87zipcpymy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1469023236.4087317.671694609.2B24E2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de W/255zLknw6Ap4xKfSEBogWGHuGhPSwkQdWt3kXy3V7g== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.039 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'used.': 0.05; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'wed,': 0.15; '1.7': 0.16; 'batteries': 0.16; 'message-id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:Singleton': 0.16; 'worse.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'not,': 0.22; 'assign': 0.22; 'sorry,': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; '(which': 0.26; 'define': 0.27; 'reporting': 0.29; 'typically': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'point': 0.33; 'supports': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'depends': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'difference': 0.38; "won't": 0.38; 'received:66': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'easily': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'devices': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'hours': 0.65; 'between': 0.65; '20,': 0.66; 'jul': 0.72; 'power': 0.72; 'ranges': 0.76; 'battery': 0.84; 'voltage': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=HiyU6NpMuB8ffqFWIz47S2tZkmg=; b=Y0NyJC R/jmZdPA3PXL2SeGhbsd9mydhq9VdAidkbXI8fexns7J4cPKD/6UISI/NeXWm1t6 fDZdL5/yYTvt/G5kHDZ8+BDTiMeNaUMAsl9mo7gP/mAb+H0QCP4d10SJcSI6NsY5 xFRPknwpBh5KXno/+XIMjITFOfJl8jaf9uQ1Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=HiyU6NpMuB8ffqF WIz47S2tZkmg=; b=cyMc9e9Ha7T/NwmsZW0O1b9Co6qcsJcdEeAKSOz4rKz46vV 6nmJXFC3hVt1aoNSSmZaW4eyL0juLX6pbKMNrKLEqqn36eUgwIZvEiXULVClQFE0 GziRHEWQEA6VzvIHrP0lISR/9n5jL6yrwfB64dKwVypVVlyQXNMxLAFt3u20= X-Sasl-Enc: 5gh/h6pCK0e8a4jWJOF5YqjtM9QRYvxJXV83a6SFegar 1469023236 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9bc30d89 In-Reply-To: <87zipcpymy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1469023236.4087317.671694609.2B24E2C5@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <201607191635.45810.gheskett@shentel.net> <87lh0xqnmi.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1468984529.3605005.671271489.50995BFE@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87zipcpymy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:111673 On Wed, Jul 20, 2016, at 03:16, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Random832 : > > Typically their capacity is labeled in amp-hours. > > Did you really see that labeled on the (nonrechargeable AA) battery? Sorry, I must have imagined that. Anyway, my point was that the reality is too complicated to easily assign a number to - that they don't even try supports that. Duracell's datasheets don't even have a single number, just a bunch of line graphs. > > You have to know your devices to know if the voltage difference > > between different battery types (Which ranges from 1.2 to 1.7 for > > nominal-1.5 AAA/AA/C/D cells, and may be lower under load) is > > significant or not, and in what direction. > > Well, your amp hours will be shittier with a lower voltage. Define "shittier". An incandescent flashlight (which consumes less power at lower voltage) will last longer, but won't be as bright. If it's still acceptably bright, that's not worse. > That's why > reporting joules would be more honest. And *my* point is that the number of joules depends on how the battery is used. And different types of batteries are optimized for different applications.