Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!cs.uu.nl!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'happen,': 0.09; "people's": 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'shifting': 0.09; 'finney': 0.16; 'freedom.': 0.16; 'grasp': 0.16; 'openoffice': 0.16; 'rather,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'trying': 0.19; 'result.': 0.19; 'work,': 0.20; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'satisfying': 0.24; 'push': 0.26; 'right.': 0.26; 'switch': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'moved': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; 'easier': 0.31; 'go.': 0.31; 'schedules': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; 'subject:programs': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'community': 0.33; 'actively': 0.33; 'ago': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'step': 0.37; 'system,': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'subject:[': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'office': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'developed': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; '8bit%:21': 0.69; 'improvement': 0.84; 'universe': 0.84; 'subject:free': 0.91; 'thing,': 0.91; 'realistic': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: [OT] Migrating from non-free programs to LibreOffice (was: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3") Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 10:30:16 +1100 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rasputin.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ydsp+myQijhc6O1LrexYfPW7Z0g= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1388964630 news.xs4all.nl 2943 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33345 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63239 Chris Angelico writes: > Maybe it's the better way, but like trying to get people to switch > from MS Word onto an open system, it's far easier to push for Open > Office than for LaTeX. If you're going to be pushing people to a free software system, OpenOffice is no longer the one to choose; its owners several years ago shunted it to a dead end where very little active development can happen, and its development community have moved to more productive ground. Rather, the same code base has since 2010 been actively developed as LibreOffice , and it is now showing far more improvement and document compatibility as a result. In short: Everything that was good about OpenOffice is now called LibreOffice, which had to change its name only because the owners of that name refused to let it go. > Getting your head around a whole new way of thinking about your data > is work, and people want to be lazy. (That's not a bad thing, by the > way. Laziness means schedules get met.) Right. I think shifting people to LibreOffice is an excellent and realistic step toward imcreasing people's software and data freedom. -- \ “It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to | `\ persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.” —Carl | _o__) Sagan | Ben Finney