Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.045 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'algorithm': 0.04; 'exceeds': 0.09; 'measure': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'bug': 0.12; 'jan': 0.12; 'books': 0.15; 'complaining': 0.16; 'mildly': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'rules.': 0.16; 'threshold': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'value.': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'fairly': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'apparently': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'implemented': 0.33; 'amazon': 0.34; 'trouble': 0.34; 'there,': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'really': 0.36; 'tight': 0.36; 'stopped': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'aside': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'everybody': 0.60; 'manually': 0.60; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'wife': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'deliver': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'purchase': 0.65; 'situation': 0.65; 'market': 0.66; 'smith': 0.68; 'centers': 0.74; 'gotten': 0.74; 'price.': 0.74; 'increase': 0.74; 'goal': 0.75; 'hoping': 0.75; '100%': 0.77; "customers'": 0.84; 'loose': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Blog "about python 3" Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:56:07 -0500 References: <52c1dc4c$0$2877$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <52C1F5EC.3020808@stoneleaf.us> <52c29416$0$29987$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52c6415c$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52C6AD00.5050000@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <52c8c301$0$29998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1388962584 news.xs4all.nl 2933 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46387 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63238 On 1/5/2014 11:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Roy Smith wrote: >> Amazon's (short-term) goal is to increase their market share by >> undercutting everybody on price. They have implemented a box-packing >> algorithm which clearly has a bug in it. You are complaining that they >> failed to deliver your purchase in good condition, and apparently don't >> care. You're right, they don't. The cost to them to manually correct >> this situation exceeds the value. This is one shipment. It doesn't >> matter. > > If it stopped there, it would be mildly annoying ("1% of our shipments > will need to be replaced, that's a 1% cost for free replacements"). > The trouble is that they don't care about the replacement either, so > it's really that 100% (or some fairly large proportion) of their > shipments will arrive with some measure of damage, and they're hoping > that their customers' threshold for complaining is often higher than > the damage sustained. Which it probably is, a lot of the time. My wife has gotten several books from Amazon and partners and we have never gotten one loose enough in a big enough box to be damaged. Either the box is tight or has bubble packing. Leaving aside partners, maybe distribution centers have different rules. -- Terry Jan Reedy