Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'widely': 0.05; 'cache': 0.07; 'correct.': 0.07; 'sized': 0.07; 'subject:skip:s 10': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '"done"': 0.16; 'eat': 0.16; 'filesystem': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'incomplete': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'number?': 0.16; 'philosophy.': 0.16; 'reboot': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; 'to:addr:steve+comp.lang.python': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'file,': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; 'thanks.': 0.20; 'written': 0.21; 'command': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'cheers,': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'defined': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; '(like': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'usually': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'question:': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'actual': 0.34; '"the': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'done.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'consistent': 0.36; 'data,': 0.36; 'disk': 0.36; 'ones,': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'experience,': 0.37; 'fact': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'hardware': 0.61; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; 'complete': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'chance': 0.65; 'close': 0.67; 'physics': 0.68; 'obvious': 0.74; 'theoretical': 0.74; 'power': 0.76; 'convinced': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:15:50 +1000 From: Cameron Simpson To: Steven D'Aprano Subject: Re: shutil.copyfile is incomplete (truncated) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51674ffc$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: <51674ffc$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365729360 news.xs4all.nl 2655 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45320 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43411 On 12Apr2013 00:06, Steven D'Aprano wrote: | On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:55:53 +0000, Neil Cerutti wrote: | > On 2013-04-11, Rob Schneider wrote: | >> Thanks. Yes, there is a close function call before the copy is | >> launched. No other writes. Does Python wait for file close command to | >> complete before proceeding? | > | > The close method is defined and flushing and closing a file, so it | > should not return until that's done. | | But note that "done" in this case means "the file system thinks it is | done", not *actually* done. Unless there's a reboot (or crash) in between, the view from the app should be consistent and correct. | Hard drives, especially the cheaper ones, | lie. They can say the file is written when in fact the data is still in | the hard drive's internal cache and not written to the disk platter. | Also, in my experience, hardware RAID controllers will eat your data, and | then your brains when you try to diagnose the problem. | | I would consider the chance that the disk may be faulty, or the file | system is corrupt. Does the problem go away if you write to a different | file system or a different disk? Or that the filesystem may be full? Of course, that's usually obvious more widely when it happens... Question: is the size of the incomplete file a round number? (Like a multiple of a decent sized power of 2>) Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson I am now convinced that theoretical physics is actual philosophy. - Max Born