Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.058 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'here?': 0.09; 'def': 0.10; 'compilers': 0.16; 'loops': 0.16; 'subject:dead': 0.16; 'compilation': 0.17; '(in': 0.18; 'skip:p 30': 0.20; 'import': 0.21; 'cheers': 0.24; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'all.': 0.28; 'case).': 0.29; 'case,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'keyword': 0.30; 'function': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'room': 0.32; 'loading': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'hi,': 0.33; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'why': 0.37; 'gives': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'takes': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.60; 'dead': 0.62; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; '10000': 0.65; 'study': 0.66; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.68; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'gap': 0.84; 'obvious,': 0.91 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:46:39 +0100 From: Bruno Dupuis To: python-list@python.org Subject: why does dead code costs time? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: python.ml.bruno.dupuis@lisael.org List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 55 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1354722393 news.xs4all.nl 6854 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38825 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:34288 Hi, I'm interested in compilers optimizations, so I study python compilation process I ran that script: import timeit def f(x): return None def g(x): return None print(x) number = 10000 print(timeit.timeit('f(1)',setup="from __main__ import f", number=number)) print(timeit.timeit('g(1)',setup="from __main__ import g", number=number)) print(dis.dis(f)) print(dis.dis(g)) It gives this output: 0.003460251959040761 0.004164454061537981 17 0 LOAD_CONST 0 (None) 3 RETURN_VALUE None 20 0 LOAD_GLOBAL 0 (None) 3 RETURN_VALUE 21 4 LOAD_GLOBAL 1 (print) 7 LOAD_FAST 0 (x) 10 CALL_FUNCTION 1 (1 positional, 0 keyword pair) 13 POP_TOP None I do not understand why the dead code `print(x)` takes time (~20% in that case). As we see in the opcode, a call to g(1) returns immediately, so there should be no delay at all. Where am i wrong? mmhh... it comes to me now that the gap must be in function loading time... I'll check ceval.c However, isn't there a room for a slight optim here? (in this case, the dead code is obvious, but it may be hidden by complex loops and conditions) Cheers -- Bruno Dupuis