Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'advocate': 0.07; 'armin': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'missed': 0.12; 'devs': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'situation.': 0.16; 'subject:More': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'url:pocoo': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'coding': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'days,': 0.24; 'received:comcast.net': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'shoot': 0.31; 'subject:About': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'core': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'messenger': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'heard': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'url:5': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'attention.': 0.68; 'difficulty': 0.68; 'deserves': 0.84; 'url:2014': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ned Batchelder Subject: Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 08:22:38 -0500 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-50-133-228-126.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1388928170 news.xs4all.nl 2947 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46608 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63190 On 1/5/14 8:14 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2014/1/5/unicode-in-2-and-3/ > > Please don't shoot the messenger :) > With all of the talk about py 2 vs. py3 these days, this is the blog post that I think deserves the most real attention. I haven't had to do the kind of coding that Armin is talking about, but I've heard more than one person talk about the difficulty of it in Python 3. If anyone wants Python 3 uptake improved, the best thing would be to either explain to Armin how he missed the easy way to do what he wants (seems unlikely), or advocate to the core devs why they should change things to improve this situation. -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com