Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'languages.': 0.04; 'one?': 0.05; 'great.': 0.07; 'ascii': 0.09; 'collier': 0.09; 'function,': 0.09; 'mind,': 0.09; "people's": 0.09; 'sure,': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'ascii,': 0.16; 'combinations': 0.16; 'letters.': 0.16; 'perfect.': 0.16; 'restricting': 0.16; 'appropriate': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'library': 0.18; 'meant': 0.20; 'not,': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'comparing': 0.24; 'instead.': 0.24; 'subject:Code': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.24; 'compare': 0.26; 'certain': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'received:10.0.0': 0.31; 'are.': 0.31; 'documenting': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'limitation': 0.33; 'done.': 0.35; 'johnson': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'limitations': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'received:10.0': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'received:10': 0.37; 'implement': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'dave': 0.60; 'problems.': 0.60; 'till': 0.61; 'mentioned': 0.61; 'range': 0.61; 'course': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'goal': 0.75; 'yourself': 0.78; 'future,': 0.83; 'standards,': 0.84; 'unaware': 0.84; 'angel': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OrNVee1eqVmu6M5GGfYI08mxsovvyOzrrXRytEOzAag=; b=VasTgFhxJK31llBgd1nXt9IrqZYIRbdVZFOMMeTfwKoC+mWu8VTMmHP6Ywyjvjf1Y2 L2WZHTFkgzpCAF09siDQhjJmuvzZEciDKNZmgyYE+oWgxvW3K2kMT7UE6h3skHMS1cD4 AP9cdcgHAo2NVbXl3gixGgeQN9pRO4/8hFKck6/lajPfZQqKYNhe1XBa/mJ6o8OtRCcJ P6yobGKe1PXsHUYZxkpsun6we8tGzpb0GSM/DajbzJze4rdGstinj8cBVTV8beFmdhR5 h66pUjIPldMvwFMJDqp7Sk2xa1AOJ8NxdWzzp3sQR8xjRJ9kIuzfwl9uYypB0TBicDeK itwg== X-Received: by 10.42.226.3 with SMTP id iu3mr12841908icb.117.1374314769549; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 03:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:06:07 -0400 From: Devyn Collier Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Python Mailing List Subject: Re: Share Code Tips References: <51e97e6e$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51E9B8EB.5060007@Gmail.com> <51E9E237.2040903@Gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1374314778 news.xs4all.nl 15969 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56213 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50955 On 07/19/2013 09:51 PM, Dave Angel wrote: > On 07/19/2013 09:04 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson wrote: >> > > >>> >> Chris Angelico said that casefold is not perfect. In the future, I want >> to make the perfect international-case-insensitive if-statement. For >> now, my code only supports a limited range of characters. Even with >> casefold, I will have some issues as Chris Angelico mentioned. Also, "ß" >> is not really the same as "ss". >> > > Sure, the casefold() method has its problems. But you're going to > avoid using it till you can do a "perfect" one? > > Perfect in what context? For "case sensitively" comparing people's > names in a single language in a single country? Perhaps that can be > made perfect. For certain combinations of language and country. > > But if you want to compare words in an unspecified language with an > unspecified country, it cannot be done. > > If you've got a particular goal in mind, great. But as a library > function, you're better off using the best standard method available, > and document what its limitations are. One way of documenting such is > to quote the appropriate standards, with their caveats. > > > By the way, you mentioned earlier that you're restricting yourself to > Latin characters. The lower() method is inadequate for many of those > as well. Perhaps you meant ASCII instead. > Of course not, Dave; I will implement casefold. I just plan to not stop there. My program should not come across unspecified languages. Yeah, I meant ASCII, but I was unaware that lower() had some limitation on Latin letters. Mahalo, DCJ