Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.053 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'suppose': 0.07; 'subject:posting': 0.09; "they've": 0.09; 'actors': 0.16; 'behaviour.': 0.16; 'cease': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'routinely': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'right.': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'correctly.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'prevention': 0.31; 'really,': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'worked': 0.33; 'standards': 0.33; 'possible.': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:List': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'stopped': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'black': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; "you've": 0.63; 'making': 0.63; 'networking': 0.64; '20,': 0.68; 'jul': 0.74; 'technically': 0.84; 'curse': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3l1/boQhRwgxns8kgo1IXPQYnxpdvYwE98Bi9F4/iDo=; b=D8GA2pEZvRMBQy1FoBhMqe5CYmG2Jqe4A0sgJxV02DLiAkITlqi1IsKxd+acWttRMz u8sdZasK16m5dPfxll/t9ake7SqW5ho79kxOfw+mAI4hxsD71jXnlBaCVITwOIWDACwZ VHFvl1tes/A9NxzSkVGS/uMf9M9HvfTl27OoNI6bZtuBcbSnVNeiKlLl5UmseMIK8cLj Dm7OQyOGguGeJJIEAN6J1cdSiUhjp2CCZb8uS4CE6Ds3AwN9CNNHM5xB0QKfv3QXd7OC rjOxdgqMxGaxxEyhNsZNmWKnKWltZFceCBudmgjuyrVuLLZwtDxxkjjCUcDB7RIoO8Oe Er+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.43.19 with SMTP id u19mr921231vce.3.1374252062893; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:41:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51e969d1$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <51e969d1$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 02:41:02 +1000 Subject: Re: Messages to Python-List aren't posting From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1374252071 news.xs4all.nl 15878 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38437 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50916 On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Admittedly, this was a few years back that we ran into this problem, and > since then we've just routinely whitelisted email from Optus and Bigpond, > curse their black souls for making spam prevention just that little bit > harder. So I suppose it's possible that they've stopped being bad actors > and started following the standards correctly. > > No really, stop laughing, it is technically possible. Once you've worked in networking long enough, you cease to be surprised when things go right. Anything is possible... even standards-compliant behaviour. ChrisA