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From: Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 04:36:01 +0000
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On 17/03/2015 04:26, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:49:36 +1100, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> The simpler you can make those instructions, the easier it is for
>> people to use your program. So on Windows, that probably means you
>> have to bundle everything into a big fat .exe or .msi installer, which
>> is what leads to DLL Hell when everyone bundles their own
>> copies/versions of what ought to be DLLs. Either that, or you tell
>> people to go install the pieces separately... which is what I'm
>> talking about above.
>
> "DLL Hell" has long been a deprecated term in the windows ecosystem.
> Side-by-side assemblies and Windows File Protection System have been
> in-place technologies since Windows 2000.
>
> Installing application and dependencies on windows isn't really much
> different from Linux, really. The linux package manager isn't much
> different than modern windows msi installers with full support for
> merged packages, versioning, rollback and uninstallation. With some
> additional benefits over linux packages, like automatic on-demand
> installation. But with some drawbacks to linux packages, like the
> comparatively complexity of creating a msi package compared to a linux
> package (really a byproduct of microsoft insanane insistence on the
> registry technology)
>
> It should really fall in disuse the idea of making qualitative
> comparisons between linux packages and windows installations. It's old
> and boring. And usually something coming out of the mouth of someone
> who doesn't understand well one or both of the operating system.
>
> Both systems work and work extremely well in their own ecosystems. And
> the proof of that is that you don't witness any sort of push towards
> the other format in either operating system, despite the fact that a
> large number of software developers being literate both on Linux and
> Windows.
>

Of course we could avoid all of these problems if we were to bring back 
the mainframe or mini and the dumb terminal.

Take cover, incoming :)

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence