Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!194.109.133.81.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'definitions': 0.07; 'complicate': 0.09; 'function,': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; '(within': 0.16; '*you*': 0.16; 'complaining': 0.16; 'generator.': 0.16; 'it;': 0.16; 'of)': 0.16; 'patches': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:generator': 0.16; 'throw': 0.16; 'tomato': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'python?': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'lets': 0.24; 'decide': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'posts': 0.26; 'suggested': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; '>>>>': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'community': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'belong': 0.36; 'consistent': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'somebody': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; "couldn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'march': 0.61; 'no.': 0.61; 'url:3': 0.61; 'entire': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'making': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'minutes': 0.67; 'side': 0.67; 'dont': 0.67; 'bothered': 0.68; 'url:4': 0.69; '2015': 0.84; 'hours)': 0.84; 'saying:': 0.84; 'hopes': 0.91; 'notion': 0.91; 'hills': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: generator/coroutine terminology Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:55:22 +0000 References: <874mpnp6nv.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87y4mznmj8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <55062bda$0$12998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egopmn4z.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <55069623$0$12901$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87vbi1qg0t.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <7cf04117-0fd5-40fb-bcaf-351353afc68b@googlegroups.com> <5506dd28$0$12975$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <6b2db06c-32b3-441d-b780-a16c4dfbf983@googlegroups.com> <6fbad705-a4a6-46fd-9344-1e9b473e89b0@googlegroups.com> <7486418e-ac02-4c83-ab7d-630103cc86c9@googlegroups.com> <35672753-1cfe-476f-8705-e8f016d700dd@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-223-15.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: <35672753-1cfe-476f-8705-e8f016d700dd@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 63 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426564534 news.xs4all.nl 2842 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43654 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87616 On 17/03/2015 03:33, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:55:27 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 17/03/2015 03:18, Rustom Mody wrote: >>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 8:37:25 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ok Let me throw out a suggestion: >>>>> - potato is a generator >>>>> - tomato is a cursor. >>>>> Acceptable? >>>>> >>>> >>>> No. In Python potato is a generator function, tomato is a generator. >>>> Why complicate something that is so simple? I couldn't care less what >>>> they are called in any other language. >>> >>> Ok so lets see... >>> https://docs.python.org/3.4/tutorial/classes.html#generators >>> https://docs.python.org/3.4/glossary.html#term-generator >>> >>> Are these consistent with (your notion of) python? >>> Maybe they are "any other language"? >>> >> >> I'll already suggested you write the patches and put them on the bug >> tracker. If you can't be bothered please have the courtesy to stop >> bleating about it. > > Here are two of your posts (within a couple of hours) > > 1. >> So the docs are confused and inconsistent but in an open source >> community it's not *MY* responsibility to deal with it, somebody else can. >> Making mountains out of mole hills is all I see in this entire thread. > > 2. >> No. In Python potato is a generator function, tomato is a generator. >> Why complicate something that is so simple? I couldn't care less what >> they are called in any other language. > > I understand the first as saying: "Since something is wrong correct it; Dont bleat!" The first is saying that *YOU* are complaining that the docs are inconsistent but *YOU* won't do anything about it. > > The second is saying "Nothing is wrong!" > The second is saying that those are *MY* definitions that *I'M* perfectly happy with. > Please decide which side you belong > The side which hopes you give up this now very tedious thread. Mario's response a few minutes back summed things up perfectly. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence