Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '(at': 0.04; 'float': 0.07; 'suppose': 0.07; '*args,': 0.09; 'false.': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'propagate': 0.09; 'true)': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'def': 0.12; "(i'm": 0.16; '**kwargs):': 0.16; '__getitem__,': 0.16; '__new__': 0.16; 'fine.': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'inability': 0.16; 'least)': 0.16; 'name):': 0.16; 'nan': 0.16; 'received:gateway13.websitewelcome.com': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code,': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'class.': 0.26; 'pass': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; "they'll": 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'probably': 0.32; 'call.': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'info': 0.35; 'except': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'crazy': 0.36; 'false': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'applicable': 0.60; 'expression': 0.60; 'real': 0.63; 'become': 0.64; 'production': 0.68; 'lose': 0.68; 'online': 0.71; 'calls,': 0.84; 'can...': 0.84; 'examples.': 0.84; 'received:67.18.68': 0.84; 'x):': 0.84; 'inheritance,': 0.93; 'ultimate': 0.93 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:16:51 -0800 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Ifs and assignments References: <52C59FF6.5000607@allsup.co> <52C5BD90.9020609@islandtraining.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3304.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 50.38.15.216 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.1.42]) [50.38.15.216]:59795 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3IzMzA0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1388724082 news.xs4all.nl 2912 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49068 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63034 On 01/02/2014 04:06 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > Here's a crazy idea. Suppose we have a "sticky falseness" that can > quietly propagate through an expression the way a NaN can... then we > could just float that right through the .group() call. > > class truth: > def __new__(cls, x): > if x: return x > return object.__new__(cls) > def __bool__(self): > return False > def __getattr__(self, name): > return self > def __call__(self, *args, **kwargs): > return self > def __repr__(self): > return repr(False) > > Pass any object through truth() and it'll either stay the same (if > it's true) or become this object (if it's false). You can then carry > on with other method calls, and they'll all happily return false. An interesting idea. You'd need to add (at least) __getitem__, and I'll probably call it `maybe`, myself. ;) > (I'm not sure if I'm using __new__ correctly; I've never actually done > it in production code, and the info I found online was mainly Py2 > examples. Should that be done with super(), or is that applicable only > once there's an actual instance with a real MRO?) I haven't tested it, but your __new__ looks fine. The only thing you lose by not calling super() is the inability for cooperative multiple inheritance, except as the ultimate base class. -- ~Ethan~